war against youtube

[Sevenless]

Fuck Google, it's officially crossed into do evil territory. They're worse than Apple now. I just wish my employer didn't require me to have a smartphone, there's no safe options left

Can't say I'm cheering for google, they're growing scary powerful. Their products are great, but the cost of giving up every bit of privacy for it kind of doesn't sit well with me. Not surprising they're causing basically all their competitors to band up and attack them. That said, do we really want the old fat cats of television to get power back?

Not sure I'm really cheering for anyone.

[abt79]

Fuck Google, it's officially crossed into do evil territory. They're worse than Apple now. I just wish my employer didn't require me to have a smartphone, there's no safe options left

Can't say I'm cheering for google, they're growing scary powerful. Their products are great, but the cost of giving up every bit of privacy for it kind of doesn't sit well with me. Not surprising they're causing basically all their competitors to band up and attack them. That said, do we really want the old fat cats of television to get power back?

Not sure I'm really cheering for anyone.

YouTube is worse because it was better at one point in the not so distant past

[Jalpha]

Competition is a good thing for everyone. Honestly Google has brought this upon themselves by strong-arming their competition out of the game. I'd like to say Google is doing good things with all the money they have but the reality is that they are only a small step above the companies who are after their blood.

Until a truly ethical company emerges to join the fight I have absolutely no interest in investing any of my concern into who is busy trying (and failing) to sell me shit. I am however a niche consumer.

From my perspective advertising itself is the evil here because of the flow on effect it has with distracting individuals from what should be the true primary focus of their lives and causing them to focus instead upon consumerism. I have no problem with being shown products I am actually interested in but that is not the reality of advertising, which instead seeks to exploit vulnerabilities in human consciousness for profit. Not even tin-hat stuff there, it's just the scary reality of what we have become.

[Avu]

Don't worry google skynet will make it all better.

Soon...

[cultist]

Think of all the internet warriors who lost their bread
Sad is sad

[shubla]

Google ( the search engine ), youtube and other numerous services that google provides are not free to develop.
Google also has massive amount of servers all around to ensure that data is safely storaged and can be accessed anywhere.
Upkeep of such massive infrastructure does not come without a price.
You dont exactly pay to watch youtube videos or to use google-search-engine.
They need money to pay all the people and to pay for all the servers. Google is also a company, companies should try to make profit.
Quite simply. Google needs money.

I dont get why people complain about companies knowing their search history or their video-preferences.
But they still happily carry smartphones all around with them. Electronic devices with in-built tools to track every aspect of their life that is pretty much possible with reasonably priced technology.

Youtube as a platform is probably going to stay.
Creators need viewers. Viewers need creators. Youtube has both of them.
Even if there would be by features, a better platform. If its missing content/content-viewers it will never become great.

[NOOBY93]

Google ( the search engine ), youtube and other numerous services that google provides are not free to develop.
Google also has massive amount of servers all around to ensure that data is safely storaged and can be accessed anywhere.
Upkeep of such massive infrastructure does not come without a price.
You dont exactly pay to watch youtube videos or to use google-search-engine.
They need money to pay all the people and to pay for all the servers. Google is also a company, companies should try to make profit.
Quite simply. Google needs money.

I dont get why people complain about companies knowing their search history or their video-preferences.
But they still happily carry smartphones all around with them. Electronic devices with in-built tools to track every aspect of their life that is pretty much possible with reasonably priced technology.

I actually agree with something this little stupid shit said, WAOw

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[LadyV]

Google ( the search engine ), youtube and other numerous services that google provides are not free to develop.
Google also has massive amount of servers all around to ensure that data is safely storaged and can be accessed anywhere.
Upkeep of such massive infrastructure does not come without a price.
You dont exactly pay to watch youtube videos or to use google-search-engine.
They need money to pay all the people and to pay for all the servers. Google is also a company, companies should try to make profit.
Quite simply. Google needs money.

I dont get why people complain about companies knowing their search history or their video-preferences.
But they still happily carry smartphones all around with them. Electronic devices with in-built tools to track every aspect of their life that is pretty much possible with reasonably priced technology.

Youtube as a platform is probably going to stay.
Creators need viewers. Viewers need creators. Youtube has both of them.
Even if there would be by features, a better platform. If its missing content/content-viewers it will never become great.

The issue is not placing ads, anonymous data, or even subscription services. The issue is taking personal data and using it without a persons permission. That is theft/invasion of privacy. No one has the right to take things from people against their will. More so you have no right to take things simply because someone uses your services. If they want an open platform funded by ads and other commercial avenues fine but all things personal are the property and rights of their owner.

Would any of you be happy with someone placing a full camera system in your home with voice capture so they can better serve you? They view and know every thing you do, think, and who you interact with? It is virtually the same. Spying and use of personal information is wrong! It always has been.

The rights of the individual are supreme to those of commerce for we are citizens. A company is an entity, nothing more or less.

[shubla]

The issue is taking personal data and using it without a persons permission. That is theft/invasion of privacy. No one has the right to take things from people against their will.

Have you heard of things such as Terms of service or privacy policy?
I think that for example google describes what data it collects and what it does with it in a great detail.
Also you agree these when you create an account or use their services. Theres even popup on youtube that tells you that by using the site you agree some things and whatnot.
Also I think its dumb to say that you OWN your search history. and its a THEFT to use it. Like come on.

[LadyV]

The issue is taking personal data and using it without a persons permission. That is theft/invasion of privacy. No one has the right to take things from people against their will.

Have you heard of things such as Terms of service or privacy policy?
I think that for example google describes what data it collects and what it does with it in a great detail.
Also you agree these when you create an account or use their services. Theres even popup on youtube that tells you that by using the site you agree some things and whatnot.
Also I think its dumb to say that you OWN your search history. and its a THEFT to use it. Like come on.

Requiring anyone to sign away rights simply to use a service is wrong. As for using search information anonymously it is fine. It is when you link it to a person you cross over. No one has the right to spy on another. Knowing that ten thousand people searched for games is fine. Knowing who exactly did is invasion of privacy and theft. You own your thoughts, preferences, and interactions.