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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:12 pm

Zampfeo wrote:I'm an American capitalist pig and proud selfish asshole. I'm the most important person in my life and don't need no socialism.

Given your statements in the other thread, I'd say this isn't even true. You might identify yourself as such, but you aren't. If you were, you'd have made other statements in other posts that are different than the ones you did. But then maybe I'm reading more into things than what is actually there. /shrug

And unless you're a hermit, you are not the most important person in your life. You're definitely not a hermit. You're here on the Internet. That means you are either egotistical enough to think you're opinion matters and need others to feed that ego, or your ego is such that you just need the social contact. Either way, you're putting others before yourself when you share your opinions. (Ok, I'm being obtuse here, and hope I'm getting a point across and not just being an ass.)
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:24 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:That's tinfoil hat trash. I don't think there's a mastermind behind the schooling system, and "strangling" 9 to 5 job? There's nothing strangling about it, it's an easy way to survive and thrive, if you don't like it, just sell drugs and you'll be able to live comfortably while not working at all.

Actually, if you study the history of public education, that is 100% the goal. I'm not saying it is wrong or evil. I'm simply stating a fact. I could go one step farther here with the whole public education to corporate drone thing here... and I think I will. It's not a stretch of logic to say that the whole point of public education is to, in fact, turn you into a willing slave to the system. And if you want history, all I can say is go to the library. Only a part of human history has been translated to the Internet... even after 20+ years of trying to put it all on the Interwebz. There's still a ton of older publications, both periodical and books, that may yet be another 20-30 years before its digitized and searchable.

As far as the job goes... if you enjoy your work, then that is great. Some people do well in life like that, some don't. I can't. It's not that I can't do the work. I can, and do it well, and usually excel at it. I don't fit into the culture. Thus my other "delusion." Maybe if I hadn't read too much or studied too much, I wouldn't have made connections between dissimilar things and realized the bigger issues. I'd just be happy and content living out my life as a nobody... which is really no different than who I am now, but at least now I'm not miserable and angry all the time.

I think you're taking some of my post way too seriously, and other parts not seriously enough. I realize there is a loss in translation of both language and culture here. I'm also projecting certain attitudes with word selection. Does it matter what word I use when the meaning is just the same?
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby Jalpha » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:29 pm

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Pls no flat earthers in this thread.

The red/blue pill analogy is a reference to the ignorant and those who have taken a step toward enlightenment. There is a place for both but obviously ignorance keeps this society afloat. If you know how things are yet still participate it doesn't mean you took the blue pill.

I think you underestimate how blind and stupid most people are.
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby arcolithe » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:02 am

MagicManICT wrote:It's why military training beats the individuality out of you. It's counter-productive to being an efficient machine. And a machine it is, one designed to grind the enemy down, not itself on improperly fitting gears.

Same can be said for corporate culture. Public schools are 100% designed to prepare children to be corporate drones, either in a factory or the office. Even the "express yourself, judgement free" zones some schools are trying to become, it's merely a way to make people happier in their strangling 9 to 5 job.

They say it's better if you don't see behind the curtain... or to quote a philosopher (Voltaire I believe), "Innocence is bliss." Sometimes one just has to ask "Why didn't I take the blue pill?"


I'm pretty sure there must be an article on how individuality positively affects technological progress.
And technological progress beats any maximization efforts of labour.
And the best way to get a country out of depravity and income disparity is through "developing" capital-intensive practices.

I don't understand OP's comment on capitalism and family vs family. But I don't understand most of the Net Neutrality fad that's going around (despite what people try to "explain" me)
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:34 am

Jalpha wrote:I think you underestimate how blind and stupid most people are.

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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby Jalpha » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:21 am

Stale meme bro
but relevant
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Judging by the people I deal with on a day to day basis they are either intentionally refusing to acknowledge issues they are aware of or they are legitimately ignorant.
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:34 pm

Why not the middle ground?
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:53 pm

DDDsDD999 wrote:
Jalpha wrote:I think you underestimate how blind and stupid most people are.

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this jesus fucking christ

just because you think you're enlightened doesn't mean you are enlightened, you narcissistic shit, this goes to magicman too, god damn.

"the system" is nothing but a bunch of people trying to live as comfortable lives as they can, you're not enlightened, you're just crippled.

hurr durr crippling 9-5 jobs, i wish i could have the alternative where i work all day in cow shit to get a barely survivable amount of food for my poor family
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby Jalpha » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:40 pm

I have a job where I enter peoples houses and speak with them. The total range of people. Rich and poor, criminal and saint.

You probably don't even leave your mothers basement.

Teach me more about life kid ;)
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Re: Individuality, for or against.

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:48 pm

well articulated argument right there, case closed, you won

keep not being a part of the system, mane
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