shubla wrote:When were politics alive?
In 60's before the internet? Or in 15th century when people barely knew who was their king and relations of countries were mostly based on marriages?
Same with democracy, when did it work?
I see what you mean ... but it's not related with what I'm saying ... it's hard to explain for me ...
So, it's not important if politics, etc ... were bad or good and so on ... the point is that they always were driven by men ideas ... some great, some bad ... that is unavoidable and it's part of the progress we made.
For example, marriages, like you said, were just tools to realize men ideas .... idk peace with that country, etc.. etc.. there was a human perspective behind that.
Right now in the odiern era, the tecnique era, it's not anymore like that, politics are driven by finance, and finance is driven by tecnique.
We are slowly becoming just functionary of apparatuses ... the responsability of our actions is translated to whoever give us orders, our boss, leader, etc ... the men are judged only if they are efficient or not ... right now you are a good man if you do well your job, if you are efficient ... but it's not important what your job consist of ... untill during the week you do well your job, you are a good man for the standards ... what you do in your free time it's not important to qualify you as a man.
To the extreme, just to explain, when a Journalist interviewed the Enola Gay pilot, that dropped the atomic bomb over Hiroshima, he asked to him: "What you felt when you were doing that?" .... the pilot was not understanding the question and he simply said: " What should I feel ... nothing, that was my job"
(I translated pretty much what was the interview .. so probably it's very bad English, but try to understand what I'm saying).
So he was a very good pilot, cause he was efficient, he dropped the bomb exactly on the target and not in the sea ... he was good.
Same thing could be said, for example, here in Italy we have a grenades and military weapon industry ... their workers are good if they make well grenades.
And so on ... financial agents that are condemning to death whole countries, or banks agents, etc .. etc ...
We don't have any ethics that correspond to our era, cause again our ability to predict and to think at the consequences of our actions is way lower that the ability we have to create new technologies ... we are totally blind ... this is the drama of the technique era. We are just developing ( new tecnologies , etc...) but not progressing as well as humans being.
This is the logic of tecnique, and of our era ... max results, with the least effort ... everything else doesn't matter anymore.
Hope you can understand anything of what I said ... lol

P.S. Also I 'd like to add that we are not free to choose, I mean, we are, but then you have to pay the price of the social exclusion.
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