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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby ven » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:17 pm

From what I've read they degrade quickly, you can only fire a few shots before replacing the parts.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby Ysh » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:40 pm

Any man can already walk to me in the public place and slit my throat with easy for obtaining knife. Yet this do not happen often. Most of the men are not killer, and access to these weapon do not make him killer. If I am looking to monger some fear and manufacture some outrage with these print gun, I will rather talk about malfunction of it harming some idiot child who build one of these thing.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby MrPunchers » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:09 pm

If I wanted a gun I'd just build one from pipes lmao. And anywho, would you not still need a gun license for munitions? Albeit you could make gunpowder yourself, also assuming it'd be munitions grade, it's a matter of how devoted you are to wanting to shoot someone and needing a press (made with the 3d printer lol), primers, casings, et cetera for bullets. At that point it's fairly crude and said killer would may as well just use a bomb or some such like the migrants in Europe do. Not a real problem, imo. Perhaps we should look into mental instabilties that cause people to kill others, lmao.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby viznew » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:26 pm

guns are easy to make, but 3d printer def make it easy for the noob thou but any shipyard in america theres a fella prob modding and making gun parts with the machinist knowledge thay have gained

yea pipe shootgun shell quick shotty (potato guns can be deadly too all types of projectile easy to make killing weapons)

i agree its a people issue not a gun issue
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:16 pm

Ysh wrote:Any man can already walk to me in the public place and slit my throat with easy for obtaining knife. Yet this do not happen often. Most of the men are not killer, and access to these weapon do not make him killer. If I am looking to monger some fear and manufacture some outrage with these print gun, I will rather talk about malfunction of it harming some idiot child who build one of these thing.

The more easy it is for somebody to access a gun, the easier it is to do something with them.
Think about most of people who do things like these. They are not doing it very efficiently. If they wanted to kill lot of people, there would be many ways to kill even more. If guns would require more effort to get, maybe they would not use guns or do the acts themselves at all. They could use knives of course, but a knife is a lot more favorable weapon to use, as chances of survival are higher when you are hit with a knife compared to gunshot. Also it is a lot more difficult to run away from a gun than a knife.
I am sure that if getting a gun was made a little bit harder, and guns as less-socially-acceptable to have, there would be less of these things.

More effort to get something = less people have it even if they really would want to get that something
You could scavange nuclear materials from different places to make a bomb for example, of course it would not be a big nuclear bomb that could eradictate a city, but it would still potentially cause a lot of harm (dirty bomb).
Fire alarms for example contain radioactive material, these days they contain some isotope of americium, which is not as good a plutonium, but can still cause some panic at least. Some old soviet alarms have plutonium-239 and other isotopes of plutonium in them, more suitable for some purposes. Thus in theory you could acquire a lot of fire alarms and salvage the radioactive materials, but it would require a lot of effort to do this.
If it was easier to build them (nuclear weapons/dirty bombs), I am sure that they would be used more for whatever purposes. Same applies to guns, even if you could acquire them by some way, the more effort it requires, the less it would happen.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby MrPunchers » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:32 pm

I can also kill alot of people with a truck but why aren't they illegalized or less socially acceptable :?: :?: :?: :!: :!: :oops: :x :!: :?: :oops:
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:34 pm

MrPunchers wrote:I can also kill alot of people with a truck but why aren't they illegalized or less socially acceptable :?: :?: :?: :!: :!: :oops: :x :!: :?: :oops:

Maybe people who do such things are dumb. Thus when they think of tools/weapons to do these strikes, they only think of things like guns, because guns are weapons. When you think of truck, weapon is not a first thing that comes in your mind.

Would be interesting to know whether people who do such things plan them for very long time, or if its some impulsive things. If it is the latter one, making access to guns would drastically decrease the amount of them. Would not stop access from somebody who is determined, but it would decrease them. Sadly its quite difficult to find out because most of them die in the process, and ones that survive usually dont give a straight out answer. (If they are event asked why they did it, instead of executing/throwing to jail) 3d-printed guns wont really change anything, because you still need ammunition and as somebody mentioned earlier, 3d printed guns are not as good as real ones (get broken easily and so on) Maybe if you used some parts made out of metal.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby MrPunchers » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:44 pm

Could've sworn some 3D printers could use some metals, no? But yes, I do agree that guns should be more regulated, and I being very fond of them would be displeased with the fact but it would be for the better. Any reason you'd need something past a bolt, break, or pump action is beyond me, albeit gas operated guns are big fun they were designed for attacks and fighting other people.

However, say we did, we would have no immediate protection against say one did get his hands on a gun. Would carry on but gotta leave quikk.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:57 pm

MrPunchers wrote:Could've sworn some 3D printers could use some metals, no?

Its not that practical yet, but maybe in the future?
Some issues include that for guns you need specific kind of metals, ones that are sturdy enough for things. But these usually have quite high melting points and stuff. It would be difficult to make some consumer-grade stuff that could melt metal and then print it very precisely to some shape.

I guess you could make cast/mold out of plastic and then melt lots of metal and use it to cast the parts or something.

Still it would not be very easy, and you need other things too to fire bullets with a firearm than the firearm itself.
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Re: 3D Printed Guns?

Postby foomanchu » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:44 am

MrPunchers wrote:Could've sworn some 3D printers could use some metals, no?


yes and no
there probably are some metal based 3d printers (in the traditional sense of casting molten metal) but i bet those are so prohibitively expensive that they likely account for less than 0.1% of all objects that are 3d printed

more likely you are thinking of 3d printers that use a plastic/metal powder composite.. basically works the same way though just likely higher melting points (and thus requiring a more expensive machine to do it)

im a pretty big fan of 3d printers and have personally printed many parts.. my school had a decent one and i was able to use it for my thesis
ive also printed many parts for my hobby.. uav's
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