Buying old hats

[wonder-ass]

The 'simple economics' (and the deluded people who think about them and money as God) is what is destroying the life support base for humans in this planet. The idea of putting a price tag on everything on this planet is pathetic, especially with such side effects. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0# subs it up.

Plus the store hats were not advertised as rare (or to not return) so speculators could leech on the mentally weak, they were ment to make the devs some income (which clearly is a slippery slope in itself as they destroy the suspension of disbelief by completely being outside the lore of the game) in a form that isn't a donation.

the chance of these hats becoming one day worth a lot of money helps the devs since a lot of people invest in the game that way.

[MagicManICT]

the chance of these hats becoming one day worth a lot of money helps the devs since a lot of people invest in the game that way.

Well, given it's an "in game good," it should only be traded for in-game items. Subscription tokens count, so hopefully that will encourage people to trade hats this way so jorbtar does see some extra money from such trading.

As far as speculative investing being simple, though.... it's not even close to simple. It's a good way to throw money away, though.

Plus the store hats were not advertised as rare (or to not return)

Pretty much this. I think if enough people begged hard enough for certain things to return, they just might. Maybe, as posted above, it's in different colors or small changes. Maybe it's the same thing. Not sure I'd want to wager money on something game developers, in general, have been poor at following up on, ie "rarity of special goods." Digital goods aren't tangible like gold and platinum (or other rare metals) where we can only dig up so much in a given year. A computer can spit out a million copies in just a few moments.

Buy your hats, for sure. Everyone enjoys showing their personality (most of us do). I think it's absurd to expect any return on investment from such items, and a developer that encourages it is only setting themselves up for problems when the servers those items are tied to are eventually shut down. (No idea how Entropia is going to manage that.)

[wonder-ass]

Well, given it's an "in game good," it should only be traded for in-game items. Subscription tokens count, so hopefully that will encourage people to trade hats this way so jorbtar does see some extra money from such trading.

hats are very often traded for tokens ingame. rn a new store hat is worth 2 tokens prob could get price even higher to 3 tokens if the hat actually looks nice.
only old hats that you cant buy from the store anymore is usually traded for real life $$. note ive seen high trades of up to 20/30 tokens traded for old hats so it is possible to trade old hats for tokens its just that nobody really does it.

[maze]

Taken from the store, but should be reworded.

Every time we release a new patch for the game – and sometimes on other occasions! – we also release a Support Token – usually a Hat – which can be bought for some, limited, time after the release of that patch or event. If you like something we added or changed recently, or if you just want a fun hat, please consider Supporting the Patch!

Support Hats do indeed make you look awesome, but have no other tangible ingame effects.

maybe Idk what this word means but normally...NORMALLY. limited means

lim·it·ed
ˈlimədəd/Submit
adjective
restricted in size, amount, or extent; few, small, or short.

anyhow I'm 10/10 for recolored hats, skinned or add a badge or feather to it.

but the old hats should stay limited.
as a collector, I do buy hats because I like to own things other people cant :/
fk me right?

[Aceb]

fk me right?

I would jump right at that boat



I don't mind recolors to be honest, as long as those make some sense thou.

[Granger]

the chance of these hats becoming one day worth a lot of money helps the devs since a lot of people invest in the game that way.

Well, given it's an "in game good," it should only be traded for in-game items. Subscription tokens count, so hopefully that will encourage people to trade hats this way so jorbtar does see some extra money from such trading.

I don't think this will change the bottom line since the tokens from the hat trade don't vanish but will likely be used later for their original purpose (thus they simply displace a subscription transaction in the shop).

(No idea how Entropia is going to manage that.)

I had completely forgotten that casino with micropayment.

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the chance of these hats becoming one day worth a lot of money helps the devs since a lot of people invest in the game that way.

Well, given it's an "in game good," it should only be traded for in-game items. Subscription tokens count, so hopefully that will encourage people to trade hats this way so jorbtar does see some extra money from such trading.

I don't think this will change the bottom line since the tokens from the hat trade don't vanish but will likely be used later for their original purpose (thus they simply displace a subscription transaction in the shop).

(No idea how Entropia is going to manage that.)

I had completely forgotten that casino with micropayment.

tbh, all the tokens i purchased or traded for never once were used for its actual purpose to add sub time.. i just felt that subtokens traded "in game" were worth more. besides why spend 10 on a token when i could spend 14 on silver and get a nice hat with it?.. tokens are more or less just a currency to me. i have traded multiple tokens for older store hats and vice versa, trading hats for tokens, and i agree. old hats should not come back unless they were changed somehow to look different.

[ChildhoodObesity]

ya adding the old hats back is a great way to piss off people who spent shit tons on tokens to buy an old hat haHAAAAA

they should never come back... and i think the recolored thing is dumb too...

[MagicManICT]

tbh, all the tokens i purchased or traded for never once were used for its actual purpose to add sub time.. i just felt that subtokens traded "in game" were worth more. besides why spend 10 on a token when i could spend 14 on silver and get a nice hat with it?.. tokens are more or less just a currency to me.

You'd have to ask jorb or loftar about how many tokens get cashed every month for sub time. I don't have access to such information. We do have a wide audience from around the world and the sub time can be a bit much for some of them.

It's worth noting that if the token value is staying somewhat consistent, then it's likely that as many are going out of the system (getting used, lost) as being added in. If the supply was increasing, the buying power of a token would deflate.