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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby Granger » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:55 am

I can only suggest to get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_o ... rogramming should you want to learn programming and are the type of person for whom extracting information from books is a good way to learn. Yes, these are dry and theoretical at times - but they'll lead to you knowing what you're doing - instead of, as many coders these days operate, googling stackoverflow and pasting code snippets together (without understanding them) in the hopes that they'll solve the problem at hand.
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:01 am

Jorb's right. You don't need a book. If you need a book, go to your local library. There's usually tons of stuff. Even if a bit dated, the core concepts have remained the same for the last 70 years. I learned by taking existing code and modifying it. Start with small programs that are easy to read. Work your way up to something like the Haven client.

This all said, reading through Stroustrop's "The C++ Programming Language" and working out some of the "end of chapter problems" helped me cement some of the more esoteric concepts you can run across in coding with a particular language that can cause errors that you might not otherwise figure out without a lot of banging the head into the wall. (Some languages are designed so you don't have many of these issues... C/C++ can allow some pretty nutty shorthand that can be hard to understand.) I came from BASIC, and it's like night and day. (Will say knowing BASIC made Assembly easy to learn.)

And worse comes to worse... take a class at your local community college.
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby julian12it » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:36 am

TurtleHermit wrote:Hello dear hearthlings!

As beginning and somewhat yet motivated beginning programmist, I ask You humbly if purchasing that one is any of worthy.

Link: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/learn-you-some-code-books

As it stands for now, I can probably only afford the 1$ one and I'm mostly interested in Java and somewhat Python and that one with Linux. (shame there's no C#)

As this is very troublesome for young yet not tired spirit, I wanted to ask for... advice? Good word?


Please, no shit talk. :)

Thanks for posting the link. I guess now you'll think twice about linking any helpful information to the community. The only thing useful you can get out of these forums is shit talk.
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby stya » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:26 am

Just a side note, if you want to be able to do the things right, do not take shortcuts.

Bootcamps like learning C++ in one week or doing some random tutorial to be expert in 3 lessons is just the best way to get more shit talking thrown at your face.

Hope I was not too rude but people tend to get a huge ego boost after completing one or two small projects on the internet, stay humble like you are now :D
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby shubla » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:30 am

julian12it wrote:
TurtleHermit wrote:Hello dear hearthlings!

As beginning and somewhat yet motivated beginning programmist, I ask You humbly if purchasing that one is any of worthy.

Link: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/learn-you-some-code-books

As it stands for now, I can probably only afford the 1$ one and I'm mostly interested in Java and somewhat Python and that one with Linux. (shame there's no C#)

As this is very troublesome for young yet not tired spirit, I wanted to ask for... advice? Good word?


Please, no shit talk. :)

Thanks for posting the link. I guess now you'll think twice about linking any helpful information to the community. The only thing useful you can get out of these forums is shit talk.

Some random site scamming money for material that you can find equivalent or better for free is not helpful information.

Learning programming takes sweat, blood and tears. Years of hard work. I dont think you should start by following mr. gangers advice of reading some big old boring book, you will get bored and never want to try coding again!
You can learn what you are doing, and why it works, later. After you know some basics of programming you can start looking into how computers work. Learn some very basic algorithms and data structures and so on.
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby TurtleHermit » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:24 pm

julian12it wrote:blah blah blah


What the fuck are You even doing in this thread? Your post has nothing of value...

As for the rest, I express my gratitude for advices! Most of stuff I'm aware of (especialy blood, sweat and tears) and I'll take in consideration at later time to check out any books You might have or not suggested here just to get clarify on some stuff that I might not understand on my path.
stya wrote:Just a side note, if you want to be able to do the things right, do not take shortcuts.

Bootcamps like learning C++ in one week or doing some random tutorial to be expert in 3 lessons is just the best way to get more shit talking thrown at your face.

Hope I was not too rude but people tend to get a huge ego boost after completing one or two small projects on the internet, stay humble like you are now :D


Yeah probably, but I consider such things as a kickoff rather than being able to suddenly be a good at it! Sadly, the amount of money usually such bootcamps want to scrap out of You is just not worthy, scumbags, all of them!

MagicManICT wrote:Jorb's right. [...] take a class at your local community college.

Been there to check the stuff out, talked with students at those. Most of them decided to say it's just a waste of time, purely because You're scrapped between a hell of things, not making You any good in all of them and doesn't let You focus on one thing... unless You want to drop out.



So today's question is, what's best compiler for C# and/or Java?
Not asking for python, since it's obvious one (and I hate MATLAB so I'll probably try to learn it later on).
And since getting cheap PC and I have no space for it in my very small room, I'll try use VM. Welcome aboard DEBIAN!
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby sMartins » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:56 pm

C++ Primer

jorb wrote:
shubla wrote:Dont waste your money on those. You learn to code by coding, not by reading books.


That.

Get a "new" (second hand old crappy one for dirt cheap) computer. Install debian or ubuntu. Write a "hello world" program in C. Compile and run.

Use google whenever you need help. Go from there.


Why debian/linux? Easier to compile maybe?
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby Potjeh » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:15 pm

Get Unity free version. It lets you get something playable really quickly (as evidenced by deluge of trash Unity games on Steam), which is great for staying motivated. And C# is a decent enough beginner language. Plus they have some good tutorial projects that you can follow along and learn.
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby shubla » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:29 pm

Potjeh wrote:Get Unity free version. It lets you get something playable really quickly (as evidenced by deluge of trash Unity games on Steam), which is great for staying motivated. And C# is a decent enough beginner language. Plus they have some good tutorial projects that you can follow along and learn.

When did OP say that he wanted to make games?
I dont see any reason for why he should use unity.
I dont think C# is a good language either, if he wants something like C# he should go for java.

What comes to studying programming in university... (or college as some call it ?)
At least in Finland, you dont learn programming in university. You learn computer science, the programming part you will have to learn by yourself by your own projects and such. But you can make networks and learn the more theoretical stuff, which is very useful.
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Re: Learn You Some Code on Humble Bundle

Postby Potjeh » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:31 pm

Everyone who posts on a game forum about learning coding is trying to learn to make games.
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