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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby Zentetsuken » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:11 pm

wow magicman way to derail our random number harvesting topic

you should remove your post and move it to the world reset thread where it belongs

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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby Ysh » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:35 pm

Zentetsuken wrote:I think the point is to prove that this cannot be truly random because this mostly does not exist.

I think there is evidence that exist which suggest that there is actually objective randomness in this world.
Zentetsuken wrote:The very fact that it CAN be tampered with means this is not acceptable idea for achieving random.

Can and are is not the same thing.
Zentetsuken wrote:Also a robot arm with drills is definitely better to defend against space terrors than a net and if you plan to launch a satellite in to space you should consider adding to the cost a robot arm for defending against space terrors and counter satellites. Perhaps once a satellite is outfitted with enough arms it can be defended from enough interruptions to actually achieve true randomness.

This is why I have surface shielding on satellite. As you mention this is purpose of your drill, to drill through this shielding. The Haven satellite will rely on the shield to defend against the space terrors, but it will be compromised if you start drilling into it, possibly destroying this satellite!
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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:44 pm

Ysh wrote:Intent of this topic is to talk about possible benefit of very fresh random number as pertaining to world generation.

Just wanted to make sure in case anyone tries to get off on that subject. :D

Zentetsuken wrote:wow magicman way to derail our random number harvesting topic

/sigh

Ysh wrote:I think there is evidence that exist which suggest that there is actually objective randomness in this world.

I've not studied the physics enough to get into that debate, but from a mathematical perspective, there will only be pseudo randomness. Everything can be influenced by something else causing anything truly random to be forced into a predictable pattern. Even at the quantum level, 1 + 1 still equals 2. If this weren't true, then we'd not be able to measure quantum particles in any meaningful way.

I think this company has a very good idea for creating almost perfect random numbers. The factors that influence background EM radiation are so varied it'd be difficult to fake such a thing. The means for an intrusion on creating your own "random numbers" falsely seem to be pretty extreme, assuming one would want to avoid detection.
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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby Granger » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 pm

Way too convoluted, but fun as it involves rockets.

I would go for the cheaper (and not exploding) solution being employed by CloudFlare.
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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby shubla » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:02 am

How is their randomness true randomness while computers are not?
I think their randomness is also pseudo randomness. Maybe it is better randomness that one gets from the computer by using the traditional methods. But in the end, it is not truly random.
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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby Ysh » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:15 am

shubla wrote:How is their randomness true randomness while computers are not?
I think their randomness is also pseudo randomness. Maybe it is better randomness that one gets from the computer by using the traditional methods. But in the end, it is not truly random.

Should we not strive for the best?
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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby Burinn » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:49 am

Wow!

What an excellent post!

Keep it up!
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Re: Fresh Harvest of Random

Postby Ysh » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:05 am

Burinn wrote:Wow!

What an excellent post!

Keep it up!

What do you think about such fresh random?
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