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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby loleznub » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:47 pm

Burinn wrote:There is ore everywhere. Get better rust root.


This is incorrect.

It's entirely based on nodes and RNG, so while you might be lucky and have ore everywhere there are places that have absolutely no ore.

Considering I've used well over a thousand rustroot charges of quality extract to completely map out my local areas underground resources (about a 15x15 minimap tile area, so give or take 225 minimap tiles total) and have only found a very, very small node of tin. I have then traveled 50 or so minimaps away to find a motherload of quality Calcopyrite.

So before you start spouting:
Burinn wrote:re:git gud.

I have, just now, gone out with 10 doses of rustroot and found 7 different veins of ore in a 4x4 area.


You should at least learn some of the more fundamentals of how the game works!
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby Burinn » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:58 pm

loleznub wrote:
Burinn wrote:There is ore everywhere. Get better rust root.


This is incorrect.

It's entirely based on nodes and RNG, so while you might be lucky and have ore everywhere there are places that have absolutely no ore.

Considering I've used well over a thousand rustroot charges of quality extract to completely map out my local areas underground resources (about a 15x15 minimap tile area, so give or take 225 minimap tiles total) and have only found a very, very small node of tin. I have then traveled 50 or so minimaps away to find a motherload of quality Calcopyrite.

So before you start spouting:
Burinn wrote:re:git gud.

I have, just now, gone out with 10 doses of rustroot and found 7 different veins of ore in a 4x4 area.


You should at least learn some of the more fundamentals of how the game works!


lOl iTs RaNdOm! uR jUsT LuCkY!


I'm sure it's just a coincidence that experienced players don't make this complaint. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that new players make this complaint.


I'm sure claiming to rustroot 225 map tiles in their entirety and "barely found anything" is something that people will believe. Like why even lie about something like that. Make it believable next time friend.

Take a picture of your quality rustroot extract. And show us what you're working with. Funny enough, anytime someone complains about this, they either refuse to show us the quality they're using or it's like quality 12. Weird right?
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby loleznub » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:11 pm

As an experienced player, I'm not complaining at all though.

I'm simply stating the facts and the fact of the matter is that this is how the game functions. Some people get lucky with finding metal all over the place and some get unlucky. I don't see why it's so hard to believe.

Unfortunately, posting my map here would most certainly give my location away so I can't give you proof in that regard, but I am more than happy to show you some leftover extract:

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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby Burinn » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:20 pm

loleznub wrote:Some people get lucky with finding metal all over the place and some get unlucky.

And coincidentally it's people who don't know what they're doing who complain about this. And the people who do don't. Why do you think that might be?


loleznub wrote:I don't see why it's so hard to believe.

You don't understand why it's difficult for me to believe that in 2,250,000 tiles you found barely any ore? You really don't know why it might be difficult for anyone to believe that? It is unlikely you would win the lottery. You definitely could. But if you told me you did, with no proof, why the fuck would I believe you?

loleznub wrote:Unfortunately, posting my map here would most certainly give my location away so I can't give you proof in that regard, but I am more than happy to show you some leftover extract:

I'd post my map with ~75% of the area mapped for ore my village has collected since the world start, across multiple areas as we've moved twice now, with over hundreds of veins of ore. If your point is that "we were just super, super unlucky" why even present that as something that a decision should be made off of? If you're claiming what you're saying is both true (I don't think it is) and an extreme fringe case why should anyone care as it's apparently an exceptionally uncommon experience to have?

loleznub wrote:As an experienced player, I'm not complaining at all though.


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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby loleznub » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:29 pm

Gross, you shouldn't post pictures of yourself, especially when they're disgusting like that!

I again, reiterate due to you being unable to read, that the game works in nodes and in my particular node I was unlucky. For each person that is as unlucky as I am, it stands to reason that there is someone on the opposite end with literally as much ore as you claim to have.

Also, let's see the maps since you're willing to share! As you said, it's hard to believe these claims without proof.

Additionally, you should go and take a look at what probabilities mean. It's actually over 100x more likely for me to not have found any ore in a single tile (1/2,250,000) than it is for me to win the lottery (1/302,600,000) using your own analogy.

I'll tell you what, if you post your maps I'll go ahead and remove my tiles but keep the markers there so you can see what I've mapped in my area if that will make you happy.
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby Burinn » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:32 pm

I won the lottery. I am now a millionaire. Do you believe me? Huh? No? Why not! It's just luck idiot! It happens! Why don't you believe me!

I'll be paving my base with silver in the meantime.
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby loleznub » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:36 pm

I mean winning the lottery is certainly in the realm of possibility, which is exactly what I'm saying. You must be pretty delusional, I feel sorry for you. :oops:
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby Burinn » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:42 pm

loleznub wrote:I mean winning the lottery is certainly in the realm of possibility, which is exactly what I'm saying. You must be pretty delusional, I feel sorry for you. :oops:



Do you believe everyone who says something happened to them regardless of the odds? What you're claiming, if it is true, would be so astronomically unlikely that I would never believe it without proof. If someone told you they got hit by a meteorite while sitting in their home would you believe them at their word? It's happened before. You're either unreasonably gullible, or just playing stupid at this point. Post substantive proof, or stop shit posting.
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby loleznub » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:48 pm

I again, reiterate due to you being unable to read:

loleznub wrote:I again, reiterate due to you being unable to read, that the game works in nodes and in my particular node I was unlucky. For each person that is as unlucky as I am, it stands to reason that there is someone on the opposite end with literally as much ore as you claim to have.

Also, let's see the maps since you're willing to share! As you said, it's hard to believe these claims without proof.

I'll tell you what, if you post your maps I'll go ahead and remove my tiles but keep the markers there so you can see what I've mapped in my area if that will make you happy.
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Re: Only copper and iron near me up to layer 3

Postby Burinn » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:51 pm

loleznub wrote:I again, reiterate due to you being unable to read:

loleznub wrote:I again, reiterate due to you being unable to read, that the game works in nodes and in my particular node I was unlucky. For each person that is as unlucky as I am, it stands to reason that there is someone on the opposite end with literally as much ore as you claim to have.

Also, let's see the maps since you're willing to share! As you said, it's hard to believe these claims without proof.

I'll tell you what, if you post your maps I'll go ahead and remove my tiles but keep the markers there so you can see what I've mapped in my area if that will make you happy.


I've mapped 200x200 map grids and found ten ore nodes in each map tile. I won't post any proof of this though for op-sec. Do you believe me?

Why post something that is fundamentally unbelievable then complain when people don't believe you?
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