Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

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Re: Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

Postby MagicManICT » Tue May 04, 2021 5:14 pm

You know that 2^16 isn't that big of a number, right? In a truly random system, it is very much within the realm of probability, especially when there are exactly two possible outcomes. If you had said "I had 30 or 40 taming attempts all the same sex," for myself, I'd be more inclined to believe something was fishy, but even that isn't a large number, just is in the realm of improbable given the player base size of Haven. People win the lottery every week with significantly worse odds than one in a hundred million (about 2^38).
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Re: Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

Postby Archiplex » Wed May 05, 2021 1:19 am

MagicManICT wrote:You know that 2^16 isn't that big of a number, right? In a truly random system, it is very much within the realm of probability, especially when there are exactly two possible outcomes. If you had said "I had 30 or 40 taming attempts all the same sex," for myself, I'd be more inclined to believe something was fishy, but even that isn't a large number, just is in the realm of improbable given the player base size of Haven. People win the lottery every week with significantly worse odds than one in a hundred million (about 2^38).



I don't think the chance is 50% either; I get an extra hide about once every 4-6 animals, and when it triggers it usually triggers multiple times.

This is my main point of weirdness with it; I rarely ever only JUST get +1 hide, i usually get +2 or sometimes more (most i've had so far was 6 hides from a fox)

Can kinda see the same with smelters where you have one smelter giving 7+ bars, but the other smelter next to it giving 0 bars. I mean, swinginess happens and i don't see much of an extreme display of rng as with my strider/forager schenanigans. The problem is that in order to test/notice this, you necessarily must be attempting to forage or flay several things all at the same time.
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Re: Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

Postby Apocoreo » Wed May 05, 2021 2:05 am

How about that finding shit for a credo quest tho.
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Re: Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

Postby Glorthan » Wed May 05, 2021 2:17 am

Maybe it's something like 20% chance to get extra hides per animal. Extra hides being some variable number between 1-4, biased towards 1.

The smelter loads just like standard probability distributions.
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Re: Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

Postby terechgracz » Thu May 20, 2021 10:56 am

Randomness is bad mechanic because there is always probability of someone being very unlucky and someone very lucky. It's unfun to get 10 bulls out ouf 10 tamings, yet its very probable that for one such event occurs and this one will spread rumour about how bulls are more probable of occuring.
It has to be changed in some way - for example we should be able to check gender before taming.

Glorthan wrote:The smelter loads just like standard probability distributions.

I think it uses only one distribution - Bernoulli distribution to be precise.
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Re: Is there something off with the RNG in this game?

Postby drakesaint » Thu May 20, 2021 3:22 pm

iamahh wrote:blessed RNG chalco batch
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I get ten streaks of zero-one copper chalco batches for every one of these.
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