talk about crazy weather this year for me

[shubla]

I would buy AC, but living on rent so its likely not possible to drill a huge hole into the wall and all that.
Also, installing AC costs start from 600-800 € in finland, what the fuck ? The unit itself is already 1000€

[mvgulik]

Earth goes into cycles of warming and colder periods that is measured in thousands of years. Nothing special.

lol

"Ah ah ah, it'sn't us. Ah ah ah, it'sn't us. ..."

Yea. It makes perfect sens that some thousands year cycle is responsible for the recorded global temperature change in the last century.


Its called a Milankovitch cycle btw. And there are more than one of those.
- wikipedia:Milankovitch_cycles
- Nasa:milankovitch-orbital-cycles

[dafels]

Yeah dude i didnt even say that humans are not affecting the cycle.

[shubla]

Earth goes into cycles of warming and colder periods that is measured in thousands of years. Nothing special.

lol

"Ah ah ah, it'sn't use. Ah ah ah, it'sn't use. ..."

Yea. It makes perfect sens that some thousands year cycle is responsible for the recorded global temperature change in the last century.


Its called a Milankovitch cycle btw. And there are more than one of those.
- wikipedia:Milankovitch_cycles
- Nasa:milankovitch-orbital-cycles

1700 years is like nothing. hate when people post plots with such a small timescale, you should be looking at few hundred million years at minimum to bring out any point.

Even this may be a bit confusing because of the variation in timescales. (Temperature on the right is probably not any more stable than before, but the time scale is just smaller!)

[mvgulik]

Yeah dude i didnt even say that humans are not affecting the cycle.

Nor did I actually said that you where saying that. ... I just implied it.

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O yea. Then there was also that record breaking "Czech Republic tornado 2021".

[Fostik]

1700 years is like nothing. hate when people post plots with such a small timescale, you should be looking at few hundred million years at minimum to bring out any point.

Even this may be a bit confusing because of the variation in timescales. (Temperature on the right is probably not any more stable than before, but the time scale is just smaller!)

Do we really need to compare 100 million years ago periods to current period, where all the species present on planet were unique and adapted to conditions of earth of that period, which can be described as different planet comparing with current conditions (atmosphere, continents, ocean streams and many other things were different, no flowering plants, mammals are just small night predators), and some of cold/heat peaks caused great extinctions?

[mvgulik]

One of the most common fallacies in climate is the notion that, because the climate was hotter than now in the Eocene or Cretaceous or Devonian periods, we should have no concern for current global warming. Often this is combined with an implication that mainstream scientists are somehow unaware of these warmer periods (despite many of us having written multiple papers on previous warm climates). This is fallacious on multiple grounds, not least because everyone (including IPCC) has been discussing these periods for ages. Additionally, we know that sea levels during those peak warm periods were some 80 meters higher than today, and that impacts of the current global warming are going to be felt by societies and existing ecosystems that are adapted for Holocene climates – not climates 100 million years ago.

Similar, point-less graph to some, with extended endpoint from 2000 to 2019.



The odd thing about chaotic systems is that they do tend to self organize into a semi stable states ... if possible.
One fun part comes when it loses interest in one semi stable state, and sees an other more interesting semi stable state to pursue.
Or, if none can't be found they like, the real fun starts and true chaos reigns until than. (no, where not there yet. but where working on it.)


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BBC News: Canada weather: Dozens dead as heatwave shatters records
"... Before Sunday, temperatures in Canada had never passed 45C." (related to human recorder history of course)

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