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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby jordancoles » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:35 am

Edited with more links and shit

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jordancoles wrote:Post fukt up; edit

Thanks

You gave me the definition of a tariff but didn't cite the deficit in American-Canadian trade when that was the part I bolded?

You didn't cite where Trump had 29/36 successes or where you got your 81% success rate from
https://www.thebalance.com/trade-deficit-by-county-3306264 I couldnt find the article that I found last year that listed him having 36 startups. Current articles show him having thousands, and only 7 bankruptcies? You're 7 bankruptcies argument is even weaker and more ridiculous than I thought! The 81% successrate, based on 36 startups is simple maths. 7 bankruptcies subtracted from 36 startups = 29 successes. Then you devide successes by total startups (29/36) and you get 0.8055555556 which rounds up to 81%. Do I have to teach you everything? You cant even handle simple maths but you think you can hold your own on a topic as complex as politics?

I can do the math, I just have no idea where you got the numbers you were starting with from lol

And I never said 7 bankruptcies? You're putting words in my mouth. I asked where you got your numbers from, you claimed he had 7 and an 81% success rate and now that he has 1000s of successes and 7 bankruptcies
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby CaddoPuma » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:40 am

jordancoles wrote:Edited with more links and shit
I'm not going to go through the post again and try to figure out which parts are edits to which I am yet to reply. I've already shown I am fully capable of supporting all my claims. I'm still waiting for evidence of these alleged non-defense attacks America has allegedly made.
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby jordancoles » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:41 am

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jordancoles wrote:Edited with more links and shit
I'm not going to go through the post again and try to figure out which parts are edits to which I am yet to reply. I've already shown I am fully capable of supporting all my claims. I'm still waiting for evidence of these alleged non-defense attacks America has allegedly made.

That topic wasn't brought up by me and I just edited my post to question your links since you don't fully support your claims :?: :?:

I think I'm being trolled
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby CaddoPuma » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:57 am

jordancoles wrote:I can do the math, I just have no idea where you got the numbers you were starting with from ... I never said 7 bankruptcies? ... I asked where you got your numbers from, you claimed he had 7 and an 81% success rate and now that he has 1000s of successes and 7 bankruptcies

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&source=hp&ei=VDknW_rhD4W8tQWT2bjQCQ&q=how+many+businesses+has+trump+started&oq=how+many&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39k1j0l7j0i20i264k1j0.2227.5062.0.7215.11.9.1.0.0.0.152.631.8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.10.635.0..0i131k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i10k1.0.XgwD5UbQ_A8

Oh! What do you know!?! I was wrong about the number of bankruptcies, too! It was only 6.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -bankrupt/

You may find this little piece interesting.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstal ... 5ba90a486a

You'll probably dismiss this one as a right-wing-biased rag that no one has heard of, and you may be correct in doing so because I've never heard of it either before this google search. But I still find it just as interesting as the Forbes article above:
https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump- ... es-4152019
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby Potjeh » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:41 pm

Name a German WW2 operation that wasn't defensive by your standards.
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby CaddoPuma » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:28 pm

Potjeh wrote:Name a German WW2 operation that wasn't defensive by your standards.
Before I do, let me make a few points clear. I am not Anti-German, French, British, Iraqi or anything else. I don't even mind America giving aide to the rest of the world at a rate that is affordable and sustainable. Quite the contrary, I feel it imperative that we do so, but only on a level that is affordable and sustainable. It concerns me when our helping others reaches a level that it hurts our own (such as buying steel from others while our own steel factories shut their doors and Americans go without work). It upsets me when our efforts to correct those imbalances meets opposition from the people we are helping, as if they deserve our tax dollars more than our people deserve jobs. It ticks me off when those same people call us imperialistic, "world police", and meddling for giving the very aide they demand we continue to give. More concerning Germany, specifically. I in no way hold the current day people of Germany nor anyone of German heritage responsible for the actions of the German government in the 1930's and 1940's. The following is simply a technical, historical answer of a very specific technical. historical question.

Having said that: The initial invasion of Poland was not in defense of Germany, its allies, nor the civilians of Poland. Neither was the rest of the push through Europe, the Battle of Britian, nor the invasion of the Soviet Union. Russia and Germany actually had a NAP until Hitler decided to stab Russia in the back by taking SU lands and repopulate them with his mythical pure Aryan race.
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby Potjeh » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:33 pm

Uhm, Germany obviously had to stop the spread of communism to survive. Just like you guys in Vietnam, except this was a far more immediate threat. And the Entente nations were bleeding Germany dry with the reparations, if they didn't fight back they'd be starving in no time.
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby CaddoPuma » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:57 pm

Potjeh wrote:Uhm, Germany obviously had to stop the spread of communism to survive. Just like you guys in Vietnam, except this was a far more immediate threat. And the Entente nations were bleeding Germany dry with the reparations, if they didn't fight back they'd be starving in no time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
Your information is incorrect.

  • It is true that the restrictions placed on German industry were harsh, punitive, and economically oppressive. However, had Germany focused their production on internal infrastructure instead of intentionally and blatantly violating those restrictions on the production of military equipment, they could have had a much better economy than they did have in 1937. I personally do not believe the restrictions should have been as harsh as they were. I also believe however harsh those restrictions were or weren't, they should have been strictly enforced. Germany invaded Poland not because they had to, but because they hated the West for winning WW1.
  • Under the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939, Germany and the Soviet Union partitioned and annexed territories of their European neighbours, Poland, Finland, Romania and the Baltic states. Germany had no concern about the spread of Communism at the time. In fact, they had a Non-Aggression Pact with Russia until June of 1941
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby borka » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:30 pm

I feel it imperative that we do so, but only on a level that is affordable and sustainable.


Start with taking your Atombombs back home ...
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Re: American Politics, in the words of an elected California

Postby CaddoPuma » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:38 pm

borka wrote:
I feel it imperative that we do so, but only on a level that is affordable and sustainable.


Start with taking your Atombombs back home ...
I'm sorry. you must be confused. I don't own any atombombs.

Seriously, though. That was the whole purpose of the Singapore Summit.
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