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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Darkins » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:28 am

Granger wrote:
Lyrroth wrote:youre just dumb if you think you should be able to raid in few hours a place, that takes days to build, months to maintain and just for being able to be destroy in few hours, where you might not even manage to do anything, just lose everything between sessions?

IMHO the main problem with 'siege' is the binary outcome - either nothing happens of the place gets flattened, with the former being boring for PvP players and the latter being reason to quit for the victims (leading to boredom for PvP players as they run out of targets).

We need something inbetween.


Just make wipe every 6mounths
people who get killed can comeback in next world , with motivation to revenge...
Will be more active gameplay - pvp
More motivation to join big villages|alliances|Factions
People will buy more tokens | verifycations to speed up leveling (motivated by need to get stronger and rekt enemy)
quite simple.

The Q grinding will be meaningfull
People will get their PvP
Farmville server for casuals that want infinite grind Q of carrots... (Oh my...To grind carrots you dont need a subsciption and verifycation.. thats not gud...)
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Jazcash » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:31 am

This is my first world, and one thing that jumps out to me as odd more than anything is how palisade is so effective yet so cheap. Didn't even know brickwalls were a thing that existed until someone told me, never seen one.
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Grog » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:31 am

Hiow exactly would be "it get's wiped much sooner" make grinding "much more meaningful"? oO
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Raffeh » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:32 am

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Raffeh wrote:make raiding expensive. it means people wont waste valuable resources to raid hermits. ONLY big villages will be raided and they should be able to defend themselves.

In regards to being raided at 4 am. the raiding window fixes that. you set your own 6 hour window which means you can have your maximum potential of players online.

If a ram cost 20 steel bars i wouldn't raid anything that doesn't give me that back or more. or even more expensive if you wish make it cost 2/3/5 gold bars or silver bars what ever but right now there are issues with unbreakable palisades around kingdom cairns etc etc.


I was buying steel for 5GQ each last world. There are public steel bots. Nerds have minesweeper bots. I would totes still raid hermits with those prices.


20 Steel bars is irrelevant, make it more expensive make it cost gold bars. make it cost more localized resources. whatever.

not to mention palisade walls around localized resources, reduces pvp encounters.
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Granger » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:33 am

Darkins wrote:Just make wipe every 6mounths

Boring concept, would only lead to people automating the insta-bot-a-village even more than they currently already do.
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Darkins » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:38 am

Its been almost two mounths till world 11 started, 0 meteorites,0 siedges , brickwall dont worth to build , natural resourses palisaded and half claimed (owner get message about siege engine placed 100tiles from claime), Kingdom Cairns can be palisaded and become undestroyable or easy destroyed if its palisaded by enemy...so on
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby LostJustice » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:43 am

Raffeh wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:
Raffeh wrote:make raiding expensive. it means people wont waste valuable resources to raid hermits. ONLY big villages will be raided and they should be able to defend themselves.

In regards to being raided at 4 am. the raiding window fixes that. you set your own 6 hour window which means you can have your maximum potential of players online.

If a ram cost 20 steel bars i wouldn't raid anything that doesn't give me that back or more. or even more expensive if you wish make it cost 2/3/5 gold bars or silver bars what ever but right now there are issues with unbreakable palisades around kingdom cairns etc etc.


I was buying steel for 5GQ each last world. There are public steel bots. Nerds have minesweeper bots. I would totes still raid hermits with those prices.


20 Steel bars is irrelevant, make it more expensive make it cost gold bars. make it cost more localized resources. whatever.

not to mention palisade walls around localized resources, reduces pvp encounters.


Felix has a bot to wrecking ball palisades. Tbh, he proved last world that he just raided anyone and everyone he could with it. After a certain point in the world, material quantity costs become mute. Maybe we should also remove roads and visitor completely? Maybe we should remove stat differences too? Lets just spawn bots and have a battle arena because that is what it sounds like you want Hafen to be.

You complain there isn't PvP, maybe this is the wrong game for you and like many suggested you should go play Rust or even League? Or is it the stat difference that you know you can win against a hermit or noob that you are after and in that case there is no risk other than the hermit who is victimized by you? I think you should really consider finding another game, PvP has been a part of Hafen but it drama so it looks like a big part but it by few, like a stage with actors and an audience. Only a few act, many watch. I find it even more ironic that people who advocate for this PvP say that this isn't Rust and yet they compare Hafen to Farmville and go tell others to play Farmville.

I agree there is some problems but making a system where you have to watch every 2 hours at any given time and starts affecting your living schedule is just unhealthy. Have you considered seeing an addiction counselor? Maybe they might be more help for you than your suggestions.
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby dullah » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:45 am

i agree with Granger, we need something between Hiroshima and boredomness for siege outcome.
Basically, enforce the goal of sieges to be only for pillaging and eventually murdering, not (totally) destroying the infrastructures.

- timezone window declaration sounds pretty nice
- also, need more defence only siege items and buildings : moats, drawbridges, arrow slit, cauldrons of hot tar
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby Darkins » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:46 am

Granger wrote:
Darkins wrote:Just make wipe every 6mounths

Boring concept, would only lead to people automating the insta-bot-a-village even more than they currently already do.

Grog wrote:Hiow exactly would be "it get's wiped much sooner" make grinding "much more meaningful"? oO

Boring concept?
lol, yet CARROT HARVESTING BY BOTS, MINING BY BOTS, DOING SAME THING FOR (x) TIME , ITS NOT EVEN MORE BORING? wtf
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People doing farming and mining? - 150 connections
People playing after WIPE? - 1270 connections
yea...wipe so boring that people leaving they jobs, dont eating, dont taking bath just to be competitive in fraction pvp.....
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Re: Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

Postby iamahh » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:50 am

lol 2 months such an eternity, in a new world with oceans and new mines and ores, no market yet... dude is already trying to develop his own mmo... get to programming your own game, problem solved...
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