Do you think jorb still enjoys working on the game?

[Shitten_DuPants]

But in making that point, it appears I've raised some uncomfortable truths about the state of PvP, because you're over here on alts trying to "Reee" it out of existence.

Well that’s a rather uncharitable way of framing the discussion taking place in this thread. What makes you think that user is employing “alts” in this case?

I’d be happy to clarify my points if you’ve missed some nuance of them.

[Shitten_DuPants]

In the realm of sandbox MMORPGs, the debate between player-versus-player (PvP) and peace-oriented gameplay has long been a contentious one. Sandbox MMORPGs, known for their open-world environments and player-driven content, offer a unique canvas for gamers to explore. However, the dynamic nature of PvP often proves to be a more compelling and enriching element than peace-centric gameplay for several reasons.

Firstly, PvP introduces a layer of unpredictability and excitement that static, peace-oriented gameplay cannot match. In a sandbox environment, players are often looking for engaging experiences that evolve and adapt in real-time. PvP creates a living, breathing world where players’ actions have immediate and sometimes unforeseen consequences. This unpredictability keeps the gameplay fresh and engaging, as players must continually adapt their strategies and approach to survive and thrive. In contrast, peace-centric worlds can become monotonous and stagnant, as they lack the dynamic interactions that PvP naturally fosters.

Secondly, PvP encourages a more immersive and interactive world. In a sandbox MMORPG, immersion is key to maintaining player interest. PvP introduces conflict and competition, which are fundamental aspects of human nature and storytelling. These elements make the game world feel more alive and responsive to players’ actions. Peaceful environments, while relaxing, often lack the tension and stakes that drive deeper engagement. PvP interactions, such as territorial disputes or faction conflicts, make the game world more vibrant and reflective of a truly dynamic universe.

Moreover, PvP fosters a sense of progression and achievement that is often more rewarding than the often limited rewards of peaceful gameplay. In PvP scenarios, players can gain recognition, prestige, and tangible rewards through their combat prowess and strategic skills. Victories in PvP battles can lead to higher rankings, valuable loot, and the satisfaction of overcoming formidable opponents. Peaceful gameplay, on the other hand, may offer limited means for players to demonstrate their skills and achievements, which can lead to a less fulfilling experience for those who thrive on competition and challenge.

Additionally, the social dynamics of PvP contribute to a richer community experience within sandbox MMORPGs. PvP often leads to the formation of alliances, rivalries, and political intrigue among players. These social interactions can enhance the depth of the game’s community, as players work together or against each other in complex ways. This fosters a more engaging and interconnected player base, which can lead to more vibrant and diverse interactions compared to the often more homogeneous experiences found in peace-focused environments.

Furthermore, PvP can lead to a more balanced and fair gameplay experience. In a sandbox MMORPG, players are often concerned with issues of fairness and balance. PvP introduces mechanisms for addressing these concerns directly, such as balance adjustments and competitive seasons. Players can have a direct impact on the game's meta and balance through their actions and strategies. In contrast, peace-oriented gameplay may not offer the same level of balance and fairness, as it can be harder to implement and manage in a static, non-competitive environment.

From a development perspective, incorporating PvP into sandbox MMORPGs can also drive innovation and creativity. Game developers are often challenged to create engaging and balanced PvP systems, leading to more inventive gameplay mechanics and features. This drive for innovation can result in a more polished and refined gaming experience overall. Peaceful gameplay, while less demanding in terms of balance and innovation, may not push the boundaries of game design in the same way.

In conclusion, while peaceful gameplay has its place and can offer a different kind of enjoyment, PvP stands out as a more dynamic and compelling choice for sandbox MMORPGs. Its ability to create unpredictable, immersive, and engaging experiences, coupled with its potential for fostering social interactions and driving innovation, makes it a preferable option for many players and developers. PvP introduces a level of excitement and challenge that enhances the sandbox experience, ensuring that the game world remains vibrant and engaging for all participants.

I agree! Never seen post so comprehensive and on point. You're really clever.

Thank you! This is a “based” compliment my good sir.

[Robben_DuMarsch]

no its because everyone dislikes you as a person

I could see why you would think that. The Venn diagram of people we both enjoy spending time with probably doesn't have a lot of overlap.

[grumgrumganoe]

draw that venn diagram mate, im a curious outsider

[VillagerAs]

no its because everyone dislikes you as a person so its funny to mock everything you say. you should grow as a person and become more likable instead of yapping out of your ass

no, it's just that everyone sees you as a pig in the pen, so it's amusing to snort at every grunt you make. you should grow out of the sty and become more likable, instead of constantly slinging slop from your trough

Brave words for someone who was banned from the discord community

[SnuggleSnail]

Robben's bestie/village mate, Misa, is an unremorseful pedophile who casually bragged about raping a kid publicly. This incident did not cause Robben to stop being his friend.

I think DonVelD is a cool dude, but even if he wasn't the comparison isn't very hard. There is not a single cool dude in the world who makes excuses for a child rapist.

[Dawidio123]

no its because everyone dislikes you as a person so its funny to mock everything you say. you should grow as a person and become more likable instead of yapping out of your ass

no, it's just that everyone sees you as a pig in the pen, so it's amusing to snort at every grunt you make. you should grow out of the sty and become more likable, instead of constantly slinging slop from your trough

Brave words for someone who was banned from the discord community

(Banned for telling a moderator to stop people from doxxing in the main chat instead of telling the doxxers to do it in the polish chat, a well deserved ban i'd say )

[DonVelD]

no its because everyone dislikes you as a person so its funny to mock everything you say. you should grow as a person and become more likable instead of yapping out of your ass

no, it's just that everyone sees you as a pig in the pen, so it's amusing to snort at every grunt you make. you should grow out of the sty and become more likable, instead of constantly slinging slop from your trough

Brave words for someone who was banned from the discord community

if me preventing doxxing is what gets me banned, then fuck yeah ban me as much as you want, you vile fuckers

also the old community got BTFO'd for doxxing and encouraging pedophilia and racism. everyone moved away except for troublemakers.

if you want to actually talk with people join:

https://discord.gg/dKJ8GfE5F9

[terechgracz]

i agree that official discord is much more welcoming place,
as a gnome with identity issues i feel i can speak my mind without risk of being judged
my identity just doesn't matter here, we're all equals
unlike that old fake discord full of agitators and trolls
if not official discord i'd be long gone from haven

[Kaios]

the pvp fundamentals step one

download a custom client