Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

[Eemerald]

I do not think the right path for the EU is to alienate England and Wales. I understand that the EU leaders are angry with the British right now, but no good
will come from shutting them out completely. I hope Scottland and Northern Ireland gets to go their own way. The smaller the units the bigger the impact of the individual.
The bigger the impact of the individual, the more responsibility for the individual. Less complaining about things that are bad. The ideal situation would be a looser kind of EU
but with local autonomy for regions, not nations. Nations have gotten too big. EU as is, is too big and cumbersome.

in my opinion I don't think Brexit will happen unless the UK negotiates a stronger unity trade wise with Europe or elsewhere, and if it happens, Scotland will most certainly have a referendum and this time they will win independence from the UK, and frankly I wouldn't blame them. They have a much better gvt imo, than we do in England, strong leadership, trying to deal with the issues, unlike many other nationalist parties which tend to lean too far right into racist territory.

Only time will tell.

Brexit has to happen in some form. Otherwise I think a large portion of the population will be totally unhinged.

A large proportion who voted to remain are already unhinged and the number of brexisters who had no idea what they were voting for are also. (not to mention the large numbers who didn't vote for whatever reason) If I thought for a minute that Brexit would be good for this country, I'd have no issue supporting it even if I fundamentally disagree with the break up of the European Union- but there has been nothing to suggest it is good for us, and the fact every politician who supported Brexit seems to have decided to exit quite literally from the topic after getting what they campaigned for doesn't really leave a great example.

Whichever way it goes, the population is divided.

[dageir]

Those who did not vote and are pissed off by the result should be ashamed of themselves.
Those who voted for Brexit but did not know what they were doing should be even more ashamed of themselves.
There is no way they will "redo" the vote. It would be highly undemocratical and a confirmation of the arrogance of the "elite".

[jorb]

Anyone who ever voted in favor of EU anything is uninformed. The EU is utter, Babylon, trash.

[Eemerald]

Those who did not vote and are pissed off by the result should be ashamed of themselves.
Those who voted for Brexit but did not know what they were doing should be even more ashamed of themselves.
There is no way they will "redo" the vote. It would be highly undemocratical and a confirmation of the arrogance of the "elite".

perhaps.

and people get angry about many things without ever doing a thing to fix anything they're angry about...
and people who vote due to misinformation or due to not seeking information is sadly a norm too.

[dageir]

Anyone who ever voted in favor of EU anything is uninformed. The EU is utter, Babylon, trash.

Would you care to elaborate. From your two sentences I gather that you view the EU as a negative entity and compare
it to a ancient city/state. The city was said to be a Great whore in the NT. Are you saying the EU is the Great whore?

[Avu]

A large proportion who voted to remain are already unhinged and the number of brexisters who had no idea what they were voting for are also. (not to mention the large numbers who didn't vote for whatever reason) If I thought for a minute that Brexit would be good for this country, I'd have no issue supporting it even if I fundamentally disagree with the break up of the European Union- but there has been nothing to suggest it is good for us, and the fact every politician who supported Brexit seems to have decided to exit quite literally from the topic after getting what they campaigned for doesn't really leave a great example.

Whichever way it goes, the population is divided.

It's funny how it's always the other side that's uninformed, unhinged, plain stupid etc...

[Potjeh]

Anyone who ever voted in favor of EU anything is uninformed. The EU is utter, Babylon, trash.

Because wars every 30-50 years are preferable?

[Eemerald]

A large proportion who voted to remain are already unhinged and the number of brexisters who had no idea what they were voting for are also. (not to mention the large numbers who didn't vote for whatever reason) If I thought for a minute that Brexit would be good for this country, I'd have no issue supporting it even if I fundamentally disagree with the break up of the European Union- but there has been nothing to suggest it is good for us, and the fact every politician who supported Brexit seems to have decided to exit quite literally from the topic after getting what they campaigned for doesn't really leave a great example.

Whichever way it goes, the population is divided.

It's funny how it's always the other side that's uninformed, unhinged, plain stupid etc...

I wasn't suggesting that. the previous comment of mine is in reference to both sides. minus my view on Brexit which was based on as much information and my own general values on the issue.

[jorb]

Anyone who ever voted in favor of EU anything is uninformed. The EU is utter, Babylon, trash.

Because wars every 30-50 years are preferable?

Imperial domination always implies peace in the subjugated provinces, and Europe after the world wars is a broken and conquered civilization. Is subjugation therefore desirable?

There will be complete peace once everyone is properly chipped and jacked well and good into the control Matrix. Is the Matrix therefore desirable?

The entire European periphery has been completely ravaged by war in the past decade, and the Atlantic establishment, in its imperial project, of which the European Union is a part, is the primus motor behind that. Has there really been peace? For whom?

Since joining the EU my country has taken part in punitive military expeditions to every corner of the globe, and has had to endure the spectacle of NATO troops operating openly on its soil, something which would have been completely unthinkable 30 years ago, in a quite obvious rattling of the sabre directed at Russia. Does this strike you as a development towards peace, or militarism?

Constructing a universal city of man, of one tongue and race, was, in the Old Testament, one of the original satanic inspirations of mankind.

I enjoy peace. I enjoy being left alone. The EU is the opposite of those things.

[Hasta]

The entire European periphery has been completely ravaged by war in the past decade, and the Atlantic establishment, in its imperial project, of which the European Union is a part, is the primus motor behind that. Has there really been peace? For whom?

Since joining the EU my country has taken part in punitive military expeditions to every corner of the globe, and has had to endure the spectacle of NATO troops operating openly on its soil, something which would have been completely unthinkable 30 years ago, in a quite obvious rattling of the sabre directed at Russia. Does this strike you as a development towards peace, or militarism?

Constructing a universal city of man, of one tongue and race, was, in the Old Testament, one of the original satanic inspirations of mankind.

I enjoy peace. I enjoy being left alone. The EU is the opposite of those things.

That sounds surprisingly a lot like my TV set did back when I had one, yet very consice.