INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

[Avu]

Jealousy, resentment, bad blood, hypocrisy, envy.

you blame jorb for not listening to your criticism, blame loftar for not reading your criticism, but you crook what you yourselves receive.
yes, looking away from the criticism you receive is always the best way to deal with the issue.

NIce of you to read into my general statement and project your insecurities. Did I mention exactly whom suffers from any or all of those?

So tonky what's your solution to the inner party dilemma? Invite everyone? Invite you? Make it read only? Remove it? How will your proposed solution affect the community? Jorb and loftar? The feedback process? You know you have identified a perceived problem what's your solution to it and the predictable effects of its implementation.

@Haba: You know I get my kicks from arguing. Lots of times over shit I don't really care about.

[Tonkyhonk]

So tonky what's your solution to the inner party dilemma?

the point of my argument (and most likely covers at least half of goo's too, but youll have to ask her and any decent readers would never see us friends) has always been to stop disrespecting others using your "position", avu. stop boasting how you are cool for being in ip and how others are not invited and useless, or even just stop mentioning it at all and then most people wouldnt care much because jorb has been reading forums and replying, loftar has been reading at least bug section and irc too. you can even poke jorb at streaming even. jealous or whatever you claim to see is mostly what you are generating imho. many dont actually give a fuck about the existence of ip otherwise. (yes, still some will cry on for their own ego, but then i could start agreeing with you.)

[Avu]

But I'm cool anyway. Being in IP has nothing to do with it.

[Tonkyhonk]

guess why i knew the existence of IP from very early on when i was still new? because you guys TALK A LOT. why did i even know how koya got invited in and how he got kicked out when i was never in it? and for some reason i got a great memory. i myself never cared and never seen that as a problem before, but then started seeing what russian players had been saying how you guys include this IP shit in your arguments.
when i was first invited to salem IP (not haven) the first thing i remember reading was the typical fight club rule, but of course some people couldnt keep that either. it is never the issue of the devs, but the members who cant keep the first rule of thumb and suffer lovely devs. before this world started, yeah it was probably rather hard to reach them, but now we all see how they both are trying to reach every player and trying to treat everyone the same (except for trust issues ofc), and we all appreciate that.

[ethan]

They ignore us most of the time anyway even when we all agree on changes which is not that often. Ignore or postpone the changes and never tell us about it. Jorb at least reads the entire forums and loftar like none of it including the IP.

Removing super hunger defying bandage powered plows?

[Kaios]

A larger variety of faction/village/whatever representation in the IP would be awesome, we have been asking for awhile but it's just another issue that gets ignored or put on the back burner. I honestly can't tell if they might be considering to just scrap IP altogether, loftar certainly has disdain for it.

A major issue I see however is that many of us tend to post somewhat revealing information regarding our villages or industry or what have you when attempting to make a point about something. I have hard time believing that a lot of you out there wouldn't make use of such information if you had access to it, LadyGoo for example. Sure, she has a point about us having somewhat of a singular mind when it comes to some issues but we are also talking about the same person who thought it would be a good idea to continue certain unsavoury practices.

Though I can guarantee you that there is often just as much disagreement between us.

[Kaios]

What LadyGoo you don't care to respond any longer? Lack of Russians in the IP is easily explainable due to their lack of activity on this forum. Of course that is mostly due to the language barrier but the ones that can post here for some reason just don't bother to do so or only do it to complain about the perceived favoritism.

Just look at this:




You can complain about a lack of fair representation all you want but if you simply look at the amount of active Russians in-game in comparison to the forum, it's obvious none of you actually care and just want something to whine about. Prove me wrong if you'd like but I'm just calling it like I see it. I can think of very few exceptions, Badich for example would be one Russian player who I noticed has made some great suggestions lately.

[dageir]

@Sevenless & Zeler

awe it is what it is, rats get sick very easily- I knew the risk.
he had a good life with his big cage + squeaky ass running wheel, and maybe to much food-

I just gotta hope he'll go fast, without pain or much suffering and on his own.
anyhow thanks again

I am sorry about your rat. Maybe take him/her to the vet a final time if it is not getting better? (Im not kidding or mocking).

[NaoWhut]

Jesus, i forgot this thread existed, and now it has
been thoroughly processed into a mound of warm
shit posts

[Uteht]

Yup. Wrong account. LadyGoo is posting

What LadyGoo you don't care to respond any longer?

What is the point? You guys pretty much tell the same story over and over. Have not heard any alternative points of view from the IP gangbang.

Lack of Russians in the IP is easily explainable due to their lack of activity on this forum.

Yeah? How about other productive english-speaking people? Why don't we see Gunnar (lives on his own and does not belong to your quiet-peaceful-botfree village) in the IP or Maze?

Of course that is mostly due to the language barrier but the ones that can post here for some reason just don't bother to do so or only do it to complain about the perceived favoritism.

I beg you. Posting about favoritism is hardly 2% of what I have been posting about so far.

it's obvious none of you actually care and just want something to whine about.

Judging all russian community based on one person's activity. I do not recognize you Kaios. You used to be a bit more objective.
People do care. However, most of them lose motivation to post because they cannot express themselves. Some might feel it is pointless to suggest anything (due to IP presence as well).
As for Badich, it is kind of sad that despite of all the effort he has put into his posts Jorb did not bother to comment anything (even acknowledging he has read it would be great), while something 1 sentenced like "add hedgehogs!" almost always gets a response.