US Election

[Eemerald]

@ Em ... Like you say, it's difficult as you can't put ppl in boxes. I'd like to say 25 as CO said but then ofc some much younger may well be politically aware, obviously you were one of them but it's certainly not the norm.

I have changed my political views twice to date, as a late teen I just voted as my parents did, I'm certainly not alone in that, I didn't really care about politics in the same way as I do now, I was far more concerned with the numerous other things that occur in life once you leave the security of your parents house, lol, I wasn't then aware how much political policies influence those decisions.

Around the age of 21/23 is when I first started to take notice and realise just how much policies affected your choices in life, but then I was overly idealistic and genuinely thought I could change the world! Again, I'm certainly not alone there either.

As with anything in life, the more you experience you have and the more you know, the better equipped you are to make the right choices.

oops forgot to add my comment!!

I take your point, but theres many issues which effect young people that we decide on as adults because we feel it's best. Take Brexit as an example, many older people may well have seen no benefit to themselves staying part of the European Union, and perhaps blame certain elements like the free movement of people for the current economic situation they're in. But many young people, who will be impacted by that vote long term, saw the opportunities it afforded. The ability to work, travel and study anywhere in Europe, in a world that's changing, where we are more easily connected, where universities are benefitting, research is benefitted and business use the UK as a country that links them to the rest of Europe. yet that decision was taken by a large majority of people who are not likely to be massively effected by this decision long term.

So yes, im sure there are many young people who have no clue, and likely chances are they wouldn't even get up to vote anyway, but sadly there are plenty of adults who also have no clue, yet are voting. so I dont think one age group shouldn't have the vote because they maybe not experienced enough, personally.

[ChildhoodObesity]

half the shit above isnt even that bad, im surprised he even posted the majority of those links lol and you sound a bit ridiculous

I didnt look at the links he posted, but can I say when people talk about privilege, right there above, is exactly, you showing yours.
It may not be that bad for you, because you are unlikely to be effected by any of it.
illegals? aliens? such bullshit terms for people. and no there isn't anything wrong with it, but theres a very distinct difference from a world leader making actual policies and recommendation to prevent people from crossing into your borders, without bullshit claims to build a wall that another country is apparently going to pay for, or calling people from other countries rapists and criminals- because apparently white americans don't rape or commit crimes...
There are numerous videos of him making comments during his rallies where black protestors were present where he made incredibly racist comments about the fact that back in the day they knew their place, etc etc. much of it telling people to enforce violence against them, which some did.
there is already pretty extensive screening to get into the States to begin with. Now lets not pretend that him calling on a 'ban of all Muslims entering the US' which is what he said, not 'we will have extensive screening for Muslims entering the US', which is different, still not great imo leftie opinion, but a hell of a lot better than some alleged ban he was going to make.
Oh my, please, stop. im not Hillary Clintons biggest fan, and what her husband did, is not the issue here. He is a scum bag, as is trump. who OPENLY talks about sexual harassment of women. I'd unfortunately be here all day if I had to mention every jerk in power whose sexually abused/raped/assaulted women, so I apologise if I'm focusing on the current issue of mr Trump who is the president elect who seems perfectly content with treating women like his dirt because he feels he gets away with it. that is exactly the type of behaviour you hope not to see in a leader.
oh im sure the LGBT community will rest well at night knowing it's there if they needed!
no but you're making bullshit excuses for him. be grateful you have Tradeau!!
not sure about American media, but ive seen far too much of trump over the last few months than I care to have seen.

you sound like the modern liberals who are offended by everything illegal immigrants is exactly what they are, although ill call them undocumented immigrants to satisfy you. can you please cite one video where he makes a comment like that to one of them, usually his comments to the protesters are pretty justified because theyre screaming like total idiots ruining the event for everyone, but i dont tihnk he said anyhting like "back in the day them black folks knew their place hehehe." obviously theres no way the wall will be payed for by mexico if its even built but i think its just something he was saying to rally people up. im sure he will actually put in place some policies that will work out well other than building some wall. he said that the majority of the mexicans being sent over are rapists and committing crimes but this isnt a racist comment at all a good chunk of them ARE doing this. i didnt know bringing light to a very real situation was considered racist now. of course white americans commit crimes as well but when you have people who dont even belong in the country doing it it's a whole different story. not to mention white people make up a very little % of the prison population and make up a large chunk of the population l o l. the ban wouldnt be permanent, i think banning people who think sharia law should be enforced isnt a bad thing. i for one do not trust someone who believes sharia law should be implemented ANYWHERE. i wouldnt consider talking about it privately to one guy and it being leaked for everyone to see OPENLY talking about it.... i think the majority of men ever have once talked poorly about women to their male friends or at least talked about them in a somewhat bad manner. in trumps acceptance speech he vowed to protect the lgbtq community!!!! id feel really safe in their shoes. also trudeau is like a meme president but its ok

[Amanda44]

Unfortunately a vast number of ppl get stuck on the first or second stage in their political journey, they care less and just continue to vote as their parents did ... or, they become disillusioned when they realise they they are not going to be able to create their idea of the perfect world.

I think you are correct in saying there are plenty of adults who don't really know what they are doing when it comes to politics, maybe taking small bits out of policies that relate immediately to them without ever looking at the bigger picture and being influenced by the thoughts and ideas they have grown accustomed to, or worse by the media, not taking the time or making the effort to find out more or think for themselves. I don't think that then means you add to that confusion.

[Potjeh]

If only old people should vote then only old people should go to war. It's easy to vote in hawkish candidates when you know it's not your ass on the line.

[Eemerald]

half the shit above isnt even that bad, im surprised he even posted the majority of those links lol and you sound a bit ridiculous

I didnt look at the links he posted, but can I say when people talk about privilege, right there above, is exactly, you showing yours.
It may not be that bad for you, because you are unlikely to be effected by any of it.
illegals? aliens? such bullshit terms for people. and no there isn't anything wrong with it, but theres a very distinct difference from a world leader making actual policies and recommendation to prevent people from crossing into your borders, without bullshit claims to build a wall that another country is apparently going to pay for, or calling people from other countries rapists and criminals- because apparently white americans don't rape or commit crimes...
There are numerous videos of him making comments during his rallies where black protestors were present where he made incredibly racist comments about the fact that back in the day they knew their place, etc etc. much of it telling people to enforce violence against them, which some did.
there is already pretty extensive screening to get into the States to begin with. Now lets not pretend that him calling on a 'ban of all Muslims entering the US' which is what he said, not 'we will have extensive screening for Muslims entering the US', which is different, still not great imo leftie opinion, but a hell of a lot better than some alleged ban he was going to make.
Oh my, please, stop. im not Hillary Clintons biggest fan, and what her husband did, is not the issue here. He is a scum bag, as is trump. who OPENLY talks about sexual harassment of women. I'd unfortunately be here all day if I had to mention every jerk in power whose sexually abused/raped/assaulted women, so I apologise if I'm focusing on the current issue of mr Trump who is the president elect who seems perfectly content with treating women like his dirt because he feels he gets away with it. that is exactly the type of behaviour you hope not to see in a leader.
oh im sure the LGBT community will rest well at night knowing it's there if they needed!
no but you're making bullshit excuses for him. be grateful you have Tradeau!!
not sure about American media, but ive seen far too much of trump over the last few months than I care to have seen.

you sound like the modern liberals who are offended by everything illegal immigrants is exactly what they are, although ill call them undocumented immigrants to satisfy you. can you please cite one video where he makes a comment like that to one of them, usually his comments to the protesters are pretty justified because theyre screaming like total idiots ruining the event for everyone, but i dont tihnk he said anyhting like "back in the day them black folks knew their place hehehe." obviously theres no way the wall will be payed for by mexico if its even built but i think its just something he was saying to rally people up. im sure he will actually put in place some policies that will work out well other than building some wall. he said that the majority of the mexicans being sent over are rapists and committing crimes but this isnt a racist comment at all a good chunk of them ARE doing this. i didnt know bringing light to a very real situation was considered racist now. of course white americans commit crimes as well but when you have people who dont even belong in the country doing it it's a whole different story. not to mention white people make up a very little % of the prison population and make up a large chunk of the population l o l. the ban wouldnt be permanent, i think banning people who think sharia law should be enforced isnt a bad thing. i for one do not trust someone who believes sharia law should be implemented ANYWHERE. i wouldnt consider talking about it privately to one guy and it being leaked for everyone to see OPENLY talking about it.... i think the majority of men ever have once talked poorly about women to their male friends or at least talked about them in a somewhat bad manner. in trumps acceptance speech he vowed to protect the lgbtq community!!!! id feel really safe in their shoes. also trudeau is like a meme president but its ok

Please lrn to paragraph !!!

enjoy the Trump racism: just skip the news lady at the start
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/escalating-aggression-marks-trump-s-rhetoric-642743363967

inciting violence against any protestors inside the rallies, saying in the good old days they would have been taken out in a stretcher, etc etc. Im sure there's worse, but I'd rather not search for more shitty videos.

I will respond to the rest of your comments later. But yes I am a modern liberal, proudly so!

[shubla]

Theres no such thing as racism in 2016.

[ChildhoodObesity]

Please lrn to paragraph !!!

enjoy the Trump racism: just skip the news lady at the start
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/escalating-aggression-marks-trump-s-rhetoric-642743363967

inciting violence against any protestors inside the rallies, saying in the good old days they would have been taken out in a stretcher, etc etc. Im sure there's worse, but I'd rather not search for more shitty videos.

I will respond to the rest of your comments later. But yes I am a modern liberal, proudly so!

come on you cant be fukn serious thinking that video is racist or that he says anything like "back in the goo ol days blacks knew their place!!" hes not referring to a race at all hes tlaking about the protesters being disruptive. not that i agree about inciting violence a bit ridiculous imo but come on there isnt any racist shit in here the most racist thing was "are you mexican?" and i wouldnt consider it racist. i dont get how people are so offended over everything now throwing racist around 24/7 id guess u thought mitt romney was also racist??

also im only defending him against all the false claims ur making to push the idea that hillary is somehow the better option. i swear hillary supporters are purposely blinding themself to the shit shes done, making a big deal over a man whos sometimes mean!!

[dageir]

[Adder1234]

I don't know too much about the election to be honest, but the way I see it, both Hillary and Trump have vastly different personalities and political campaigns. As a result, both have groups of followers that like them for vastly different reasons. So in the end, it's like arguing for whether nuclear power or coal power is better. Both have pros and cons that are very different, so it's difficult to say which is better or worse.

But either way, Trump has won, and there really isn't anything anyone can do about it.

[iamahh]