Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

[synaris]

Got any statistics? AFAIK immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native born citizens.

wow... the exact opposite of reality. its like someone tell me that water is dry. anyways its hard to get statistics when the globalists refuse to publish any. the authorities are going out of their way to protect immigrants in all of the countries affected by them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iERLyAxddVE

alright, lets get into the same load of bullshit yet again.

Prevent the violence from happening upon innocent people without killing or injuring the people who commit it.
Sometimes shit happens. Too bad if you are unlucky. More harm comes from people wielding guns than what comes if they would not.

another lie. i already posted a link that spoke about a town with no murders in the last 25 years after they made it a requirment to own a gun if you wanted to live there. also you cannot prevent violence without harming someone every time. recently a bus driver accidently killed a mother in front of her two children by tripping her and knocking her to the ground. she was attacking him. she got up the first time and stayed down the second. head hit concrete. that wasnt intentional but it happened. so that luck factor works both ways. and of course that video which was all over the internet a few months ago cannot be found now. fuck me. and it seems like you;re thinking of a case by case basis. if someone robs or rapes you and you dont kill them. sure a less heinous act was commited, but then the criminal goes on and hurts someone else. then someone else. then someone else. and you could have stopped it all.

It does not give you the right to kill anybody still. We have laws and justice system for that, so people who do crimes can be punished and rehabilitated to the society.

ah the classic authority fallacy. "these people have can because they have shiny badges and special papers. but you cannot." fuck that. dead is dead regardless of who kills the criminal.

Sure weapons work well against bad people, but do you understand that guns can also be used wrongly against innocent people? And the more guns there are, the more they are used for killing innocent people.

any damn thing can be used correctly or incorrectly. hell i was slicing up potatoes the other day. the knife i used was designed for chopping vegetables and nothing more. but imagine my surprise when i accidently cut into my thumb. just because the knife CAN be incorrectly doesnt mean we should lose access to the knife. also the more guns there are, the safer everyone is. see article about town.

It is not worth it to have people wield guns, because it has many disadvantages attached to it, compared to small advantages that it might produce.
You might feel safer when you have a gun, but are you okay with the fact that because you have gun, somebody else also has a gun, that is used for illicit acts such as shooting lots of innocent people to their premature death?

there isnt some sort of cosmic force that forces the scales of good and evil to forever be balanced. life isnt like a game where balance is an issue that is constantly worried about. when a good man gets a gun, a gun does not magiclaly appear in the hands of a bad man. and taking away guns from good people, does not magically take away guns from bad people. i have also already addressed the mass shooters VS goodguy argument. stop pretending that i didnt.

Maybe amercia still is, but many other countries have already civilized.

you use the word civilized to imply that other countries have some ordeal that america shouls aspire to. not sorry to break it to you but we had the best system in the entire world before our goverment got corrupted. theres a damn good reason that so many people want to get here. that venezualens were trying to get through mexicos southern border to reach the states. capitalism and freedom led to the happiest people in the world.

Its obvious that I didnt mean that your society is literally wild west, but as figuratively. This is one more thing that proves your inability to use your brains properly.

no shit. but i already corrected you about your guns=violence stance. so i took the time to correct you on another issue.

Also I dare to say that in Finland we have much more freedom than in America.

good to hear. can you give some examples? because it sounds like you dont have the right to own firearms.

[shubla]

Got any statistics? AFAIK immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native born citizens.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9251395
In Finland, every fifth suspect that has commited sexual crime is immigrant. But way less than fifth of the population are immigrants.

https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000002883065.html
Crimes commited by foreign people on the rise.

I also found a long paper about the thing ( that immigrants commit more crimes than natives in finalnd) , sadly it is in finnish and 300 pages long. So its not that much of an use here.

[Potjeh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /30159479/

From 1990 to 2013, the number of undocumented immigrants in the country tripled from 3.5 million to 11.2 million. Yet during that time, violent crime rates dropped 48% nationwide, according to the report.

Using data from the 2010 Census, the report found that 1.6% of foreign-born males are in jail, compared with 3.3% of the native-born population. Researchers have long questioned the accuracy of Census data for prisoners, since the information they get from inmates is often incomplete, and immigrants could lie out of fear of being deported. But the authors found similar trends going back to 1980, so that helps bolster their case.

[MagicManICT]

i mean, lets be frank here, rape is one of the most heinous crimes, and i would admittedly shoot someone for far far less. I want to assume this was a sarcastic post tho.

You want to assume that because that's the culture you have been indoctrinated in. Think about it. What's rape? Rape isn't about sex, it's about power. It's a means for one person saying that they "own" you like a bitch, but do they really? It hurts just like getting assaulted by any other means, but things heal, and you go on with your life. Let me repeat: You get to go on with your life, as in "You're not dead." YOU get to decide how to go on with your life, whereas a person that is dead doesn't get to decide. A person that is crippled for life has their choices severely restricted.

Now, am I being sarcastic, or am I trying to put a bit of perspective into some irrational hysteria?

[shubla]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/

From 1990 to 2013, the number of undocumented immigrants in the country tripled from 3.5 million to 11.2 million. Yet during that time, violent crime rates dropped 48% nationwide, according to the report.

Using data from the 2010 Census, the report found that 1.6% of foreign-born males are in jail, compared with 3.3% of the native-born population. Researchers have long questioned the accuracy of Census data for prisoners, since the information they get from inmates is often incomplete, and immigrants could lie out of fear of being deported. But the authors found similar trends going back to 1980, so that helps bolster their case.

I dont care about USA 20 years ago, I care about Finland today!

[Potjeh]

Well yeah it''s gonna bring down FInland because Fins are less violent than average, but it's going to improve USA because Americans are more violent than average.

Not that Americans have any right to complain about radical Islam, though, because it's their baby.

[synaris]

i mean, lets be frank here, rape is one of the most heinous crimes, and i would admittedly shoot someone for far far less. I want to assume this was a sarcastic post tho.

You want to assume that because that's the culture you have been indoctrinated in. Think about it. What's rape? Rape isn't about sex, it's about power. It's a means for one person saying that they "own" you like a bitch, but do they really? It hurts just like getting assaulted by any other means, but things heal, and you go on with your life. Let me repeat: You get to go on with your life, as in "You're not dead." YOU get to decide how to go on with your life, whereas a person that is dead doesn't get to decide. A person that is crippled for life has their choices severely restricted.

Now, am I being sarcastic, or am I trying to put a bit of perspective into some irrational hysteria?

tell that to the guy who got raped by a woman at a party while he was unconcious. she stuck a straw in his dick so she could try and mount it. years later it still hurts him to pee. and of course that video is magically gone when i need it.

also if its about freedom, being able to do what you please in life. then you should be FOR guns so people can choose not to be raped. in america we understand that our freedoms end where anothers begin. you cross that line and the gloves are off.

Not that Americans have any right to complain about radical Islam, though, because it's their baby.

once again, the exact opposite of reality. i could swear you're trolling at this point. dont mistake what the mainstream media says for what the american people actually believe.

for example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjIFr8-MS8 the kids that are pro gun cannot get on CNN.

[Massa]

Got any statistics? AFAIK immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native born citizens.

I mostly meant african americans. Mexicans are a lot more violent, but that's only because a lot of that shit is inflated near the border with cartel and drug violence.

Unaffiliated hispanics and mexicans are often much closer to the whites on that diagram I reckon.

[Potjeh]

once again, the exact opposite of reality. i could swear you're trolling at this point. dont mistake what the mainstream media says for what the american people actually believe.

Which part do you deny? That CIA armed and trained Mujaheddin in Afghanistan? That they overthrew Iran's democratically elected government which caused the Islamic Revolution? That USA is currently propping up Saudi Arabia which is world's leading exporter of terrorism?

[synaris]

once again, the exact opposite of reality. i could swear you're trolling at this point. dont mistake what the mainstream media says for what the american people actually believe.

Which part do you deny? That CIA armed and trained Mujaheddin in Afghanistan? That they overthrew Iran's democratically elected government which caused the Islamic Revolution? That USA is currently propping up Saudi Arabia which is world's leading exporter of terrorism?

the globalists did all of that, the american people were against all of that. like i said, dont lump us all in with our goverment. our last 3 presidents were all monsters there is no doubt, and the majority of people in the goverment are demonic and deserve the most painful death we can give them.

but the people are either kept in the dark, or force fed some sort of outrage. bush did 9/11 so there was a believable reason to invade iraq. the common moron that doesnt look into anything would believe it, despite that not everyone was convinced. after all there are asloads of anti-aircraft turrets around new york. a 747 couldnt possibly have gotten through. also jet fuel cant melt steel beams.

and the goverment and the media they own are propping up saudi arabia the loyal US citizen cannot stand them. we want the muslims out of our country. and we wish the idiotic feminists that sided with the muslims didnt exist.

i dont know shit about the mujaheddin bit. but since the CIA was specifically made to oppress people, i can imagine them doing all sorts of horrendous shit. hell the CIA owns amazon and created alexa to spy on as many people as they could.

and yes i know obama sent supplies and weapons ect to isis. the mainstream media does not report on things like that so the common man wa sin the dark until infowars got more popular.

my problem was with you assuming ALL of america supported shit like that. when a minority does. that minority happens to run most of our goverment. trump is working on kicking them out. our country is not a hive mind. and what our goverment did and still does is pissing us off more every day.