American Politics, in the words of an elected California Dem

[Potjeh]

That Koolaid must be delicious.

[jorb]

No one is calling for an invasion of Iran. We're just calling for an end to their nuclear weapons program.

How would you feel if Iran called for an end to "yours"? Yours in citation, of course, because you have no stake in them. "Your" nuclear weapons are wholly owned by an oligarchic alliance of occult government, party, military industrial complex, banks, big capital, and old money foundations, none of which care one iota for the American republic or way of life, other than as the means and vehicles for world domination, toxic culture, and deracination -- Annuit coeptis, Novus Ordo Seclorum -- that they were always, since their inception in a dark 1776, intended to be. The American Empire, much like old Rome or Babylon before it, has expanded its borders and military influence every year since its inception, and has been at war for 225 out of 242 years of existence, and there remains today not a single country on the planet which has not been fundamentally transformed by the American revolutionary model of propositional government, atheistic republic, and the pursuit of happiness as the vegetative end goal of man's existence, and yet you believe somehow that this happened without aggression on "your" part? Without the will to power?

No will to power when "you" seized a third of Mexico at Guadalope-Hidalgo? None when "you" exterminated and forcibly removed the Cherokee? The plains indians? When "you" seized the Phillippines and Cuba? When America swooped in as a bald-headed vulture over the battlefields of the first world war? When the Bolshevik revolution was financed by American capital? When "you" ignited false suns over Hiroshima and Nagasaki? When Wild Bill Donovan and the OSS trained Mao's guerillas in support of Red China? When "you" overthrew Mossadegh for daring to question the role of British Petroleum in Iranian public life? When Guatemala was made safe for the United Fruit Company? All of these are really just happy accidents which have, entirely against her will, propelled America to a position of complete world domination? No taint of subversion in your cup when the CIA makes an entire way of life out of organizing revolutions in foreign countries? It does not bother you that the NSA has as its stated ambition to steal, collect and save all data transferred over the internet in perpetuity?

I do not wish to detract from your love of country, which is a healthy instinct, but you must -- really -- stop conflating your country with someone entirely else's empire. The entire ruin landscape of modernity -- asphalt, McDonalds, endless highways to nowhere, Monsanto, liberalism, multiculturalism, gender dysphoria, Wall Street, CIA & MKULTRA -- emanates entirely from the white ziggurats towering over the Potomac as Washington, D.C., and serves only the interests of global government, and the managerial, therapeutic, world state.

You speak of Donald Trump as if he matters.

[Potjeh]

Trump is perfectly in line with that agenda. If Americans really cared about substance rather than celebrity appeal they would've elected Ron Paul when they had the chance. Not that it would've changed anything, though, he'd be assassinated before taking office. And this is why the protection against tyranny argument for 2nd Amendment is a load of horseshit - Americans won't rebel even as they're being led to the slaughterhouse.

[Onep]

Pretty much that. I still wonder why we haven't updated the name to the United American Empire. In reality, Trump doesn't have that much effect on the US gooberment. He's just a figure head to give the public bread, circus and a scapegoat.
Bureaucracy is a wonderfully soulless machine that dehumanizes and monetizes. And it works the most effectively for those who sit on top of it.

[Potjeh]

Trump is an empty vessel that the powers that be can easily sway to do whatever they want with just a bit of flattery.

[Onep]

And this is why the protection against tyranny argument for 2nd Amendment is a load of horseshit - Americans won't rebel even as they're being led to the slaughterhouse.

Yeah, just let me go down to the local court house and just start wasting bureaucrats. Ted Kaczynski was right, but how exactly do you unplacate the masses?

[Potjeh]

Forget rank and file, you need to get the big fish. Assassinating George Soros and Koch Bros would be a good start.

[jordancoles]

You're being put on a list somewhere

[Onep]

Implying true Americans aren't judged by the number of watch lists they're on.

[CaddoPuma]

No one is calling for an invasion of Iran. We're just calling for an end to their nuclear weapons program.

How would you feel if Iran called for an end to "yours"?

What the heck do you think "Death to America means? Not only are they daily calling for the end of our nuclear weapons; They are calling for an end to our country and an end to me!

the Cherokee? The plains indians?

I am part Cherokee and part Blackfoot. I've already forgotten more about the history and culture of Native Americans than you will ever learn. I'm not trying to tell you the "true" story of the Vikings. Don't even try to lecture me about my people.

When America swooped in as a bald-headed vulture over the battlefields of the first world war?

...at the insistence of our European Allies (can you say [idefensive?[/i] who were in affect defenseless against the German invaders.

When "you" ignited false suns over Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Would you have preferred the alternative? Remember we didnt have smart bombs and stealth planes as we do today. A conventional assault on Japan itself, which we had every capability of carrying out successfully, would have meant the death of tens of millions of Japanese civilians as well as multiple (but less than 10) millions of American troops. I truly do feel for those who died as a result of the dropping of the atomic bomb and their progeny. But the fact remains that any other action short of capitulation to Japan would have resulted in the deaths of many, many more...and with a very high probability, would have included every single soul that did die.

I do not wish to detract from your love of country, which is a healthy instinct, but you must -- really -- stop conflating your country with someone entirely else's empire. The entire ruin landscape of modernity -- asphalt, McDonalds, endless highways to nowhere, Monsanto, liberalism, multiculturalism, gender dysphoria, Wall Street, CIA & MKULTRA -- emanates entirely from the white ziggurats towering over the Potomac as Washington, D.C.,

I am fully aware of America's faults. We have made many poor decisions along the way. In fact, if you would return your attention to the original subject of either of the merged topics, you would see this started out as me railing against and exposing some of those faults. But conflating, exaggerating, and just plain fabricating additional wrongs and intentions to justify "your" hatred for the one country who has consistently - and continues even to this very moment - to come to the aide of other nations and people around the globe at our own great expense and detriment. And why do they really hate us? Because they are foolish people who hate the fact that they were at one time, or in some cases still are, so weak that without us, they would be unable to continue their existence. It's a fact that they detest so deeply that they try to pretend it isnt fact, but deep down, they know it is and it just eats them up with anger and shame. Have you ever hear the expression "Don't bite the hand that feeds you?" Well many across the globe has been biting America's hand for decades now. Yet "you" whine and moan when we try to pull back the feed.

...and serves only the interests of global government, and the managerial, therapeutic, world state.

I cannot deny there are forces in the American government which are definitely desperate to cede America to the Globalist movement. But that is not the will of the American people. That is the will of those who wish to tear down and minimize every acheivement as well as exaggerate, conflate, and straight up fabricate every imaginable false move of my President.

You speak of Donald Trump as if he matters.

I voted for him and I pray daily that he receive devine protection and wisdom. He may not matter to you; but he matters to me.