Human Population Through Time

[Procne]

I'd argue that it is because people are comfortable that they aren't having children.

If people stop having children, you will stop having pension. There will be lack of workers and you will have miserable life in your last years!

I would argue that people spend more on upbringing their children than the pension they get after they retire.

[MagicManICT]

I would argue that people spend more on upbringing their children than the pension they get after they retire.

That's not a very difficult argument to make. Of course, I did run across this top hit on a Google search for "cost of raising a child": http://time.com/money/4629700/child-rai ... re-report/

[sMartins]

At least, it does make sense ending this topic talking about that ..... .

[Granger]

I'd argue that it is because people are comfortable that they aren't having children.

If people stop having children, you will stop having pension. There will be lack of workers and you will have miserable life in your last years!

Amount of workers dosn't have to do anything with that - at least it shouldn't, but as we're gouverned by corrupt humans that made sure that all the wealthy ones are excluded from paying for pensions...

You'll stop having a pension as the rich siphon it all away.

[MagicManICT]

You'll stop having a pension as the rich siphon it all away.

I don't know about in Germany, other parts of the EU, Canada, etc.... but ours got spent 30 years ago by Reaganomics. (Note, not the only President/Congress to dig into Social Security as if it was "free money." I think it was the biggest borrow as a percentage of GDP, but I'd have to research to be sure.)

[Granger]

The only pension you can get is from what currently is produced (as stuff from 30 years ago will be stale). The question just is how to distribute the current production among all humans - it's enough there for everyone, so that can't be the problem.

As some people like problems (as these distract others from closer looking what the some are doing) they have installed a money stage in the process, allowing even distribution among everyone to be tilted toward more for the some and less for the rest - preferably in a way that the rest gets divided up into factions that combat each other so they continue to ignore the some (so these can grab more for themselves).

To make this look legit the some install their pupptes into the gouverments to make the laws they like, while the rest is busy being distracted by the problems so they continue to ignore that heist (instead of what they should do: to rightfully jail the some for their crimes against humanity and restore a fair share system).

[Jalpha]

Arguably those some are entitled to some sense of superiority as they have managed to foster a functional family over several generations. Most people are very small-minded and selfish. This is a set of traits which has also infected those families. For the same reasons that the ancient family lines of nobles and kings floundered so too the ruling families of this age will also destroy themselves. Unfortunately probably not before my time here is done.

[MagicManICT]

as they have managed to foster a functional family over several generations.

That's laughable. I'm almost crying over that one. Do you know anyone that is powerful and controls money? The ones I know are some of the most dysfunctional people I've met. Not all are sociopaths, but I probably wouldn't be far off if I did say "all of them are." They just have a knack for using that dysfunction to create wealth and power rather than sowing chaos and ruin.

[Jalpha]

I'm well aware that having money creates more dysfunction than it solves. This is why the rich and powerful will fail over a long enough timeline. We evolve in each generation according to the experiences of our parents, which affect epigenetics and thus the genetics of their offspring. Some people have the tenacity to rise to the challenges of their station, be that at the top or bottom of societies ladder. If you don't have to try, why would you.

This is the current state of the system. Those in power today are the equivalent of spoiled brats in an adults body. When their children take their place I strongly suspect they will fall. Most of them at least.

What they have done is preyed upon other families instead of their own.

[Potjeh]

Nobility took centuries to fail, why would this neonobility be any different?