Russia invades Ukraine

[Ferinex]

Gotta love Islamist Kadyrovites in control of nuclear rods at Zaporizhzhia. Ex-KGB Putin making Peace (kill all otherZ?), Land, and Bread (famine incoming) relevant again in Russia. Russian players, can you even access this forum anymore? Serious question. I've heard you are seceding from the world.

[Sholom]

Russian players, can you even access this forum anymore? Serious question. I've heard you are seceding from the world.

Both forum and game work without any issues. There are reports of some online games not working or having huge latency, but can't confirm. Not in the mood for gaming right now, so I didn't check.
There are some issues with google services (youtube, gmail), but mobile apps seem to work and the issues don't seem to affect everyone. Instagram does not work if it is set to Russian language, but if you switch to English it works just fine. Facebook, twitter, etc. are accessible via VPNs and proxy servers as of now. But who knows what happens next, they've been preparing to isolate the Russian internet for the past few years, they have legal basis and some of the tools to do so ready.

[mamflo]

How are the Russians going to keep all the apps developed on dotNet running?

[dagrimreefah]

Its fun joke but when you think about it, why should you not support ukraine? To not be sheeple? Sounds dumb

Because it's a puppet state controlled by globohomo and is by far the most corrupt nation in Europe. Also, Russia has been warning against NATO aggression for 15 fucking years and saying they would do this exact thing if they didn't stop threatening thier navy with NATO posturing. Not to mention: why the fuck should I "support" Ukraine? What have they done for me? Why should I care? Don't we have enough problems here in the US as it is? I've looked extensively into this stupid ordeal, and in no way does Russia capturing the Donbass region of Ukraine (or even the WHOLE of Ukraine) affect the American people. It only affects the oligarch billionaire class.

I wish people weren't getting blown up, but I have no dog in this.

If anyone sounds dumb it's you.

[shubla]

Because it's a puppet state controlled by globohomo and is by far the most corrupt nation in Europe.

Ukraine is not the most corrupt nation in Europe. Azerbaijan is by far the most corrupt. With probably turkey/Balkan countries very close by.
But yes, there is lot of corruption, but there is also strong will to get rid of it. They want to join EU, they want to join NATO, they are shifting towards western values just like Estonia and fellas did.
They are fighting quite hard as a proof of all this, if they just wanted to keep living in corruption and shit ex cccp state they would welcome Russian conquers with open arms.

Also its not a puppet state? Russia is trying to make them a puppet state, but Ukrainians don't want to?

Russia has been warning against NATO aggression for 15 fucking years and saying they would do this exact thing if they didn't stop threatening thier navy with NATO posturing.

Not sure what NATO has done that would give Russia right to invade another country, mercilessly bomb its civilians to death and forcibly drive them away from their homeland.

Not to mention: why the fuck should I "support" Ukraine? What have they done for me? Why should I care? Don't we have enough problems here in the US as it is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy and such?
Also if Russia successfully conquers Ukraine, it will eventually propagate effects to you as well. Even effects of the current conflict will be felt by you via economy at the very least.

in no way does Russia capturing the Donbass region of Ukraine (or even the WHOLE of Ukraine) affect the American people.

Are you stupid? Its not a bad thing to be, but to educate you:
It WILL have HYUGE effect on everybody. Assuming that invasion is very successful, putin probably keeps in power and will gain more confidence.
There is a chance for further escalations which will involve US (WW3 even, though unlikely just like russia actually invading ukraine ). Stance against Russia has changed forever, even days before the invasion many were very confident that they'd not do it.
There would likely be more sanctions for a very long time, which will again have lots of impact in global economy, Russian economy is not small player by any means.
Then there's China, if invasion to Ukraine is successful that will definitely have some impact on how China will view its plans to "unite" Taiwan. Also if west denies Russia it may get closer to China etc.

[WowGain]

globohomo

If anyone sounds dumb it's you.

why did you come back again?

[Hubiektyw]

Shubla is really growing on me.

[drakesaint]

Shubla is really growing on me.

Pathological altruism places valuable, limited resources on things and people that have no connection to you, your family nor your community, and also never adds nor even has a net-zero impact; its only subtraction. Death by a thousand paper cuts; if it doesn't come in your generation, it comes on your child's or your grandchild's.

[WowGain]

Shubla is really growing on me.

Pathological altruism places valuable, limited resources on things and people that have no connection to you, your family nor your community, and also never adds nor even has a net-zero impact; its only subtraction. Death by a thousand paper cuts; if it doesn't come in your generation, it comes on your child's or your grandchild's.

even if you werent calling basic human empathy a mental illness youd still be wrong in the sense that any geopolitical shift could have "no connection" to yourself. the world doesnt work like that anymore and anyone with even a basic understanding of global politics can grasp that concept.

[dagrimreefah]

Ukraine is not the most corrupt nation in Europe. Azerbaijan is by far the most corrupt. With probably turkey/Balkan countries very close by.

lol hilarious how you have to compare Southwest Asian/caucus countries that are barely straddling Europe to Ukraine. But yeah, according to https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine: "Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index – the most widely used indicator of corruption worldwide – rates Ukraine 142nd in the world, alongside Uganda. In the latest ranking, it fell behind Nigeria."
Oh, there's also this.: https://www.unian.info/society/10016660-ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia-ti.html

But yes, there is lot of corruption, but there is also strong will to get rid of it.

LOL the naivety

They want to join EU, they want to join NATO,

yes, that is exactly what Russia warned against for 15 years, joining NATO, and rightfully so. It directly threatens their navy, their capitol city, and their borders. NATO POSTING UP IN UKRAINE IS LIKE IF RUSSIA PLACED MISSILES IN CUBA. WHAT IF RUSSIA PLACED MISSILES IN CUBA? OH WAIT...

they are shifting towards western values just like Estonia and fellas did.

bro you seriously have no fucking clue what you're talking about. What are these "Western values" idiots like you keep speaking of? Gay anal sex? Child trannies? Please tell me what these "western values" are. Because if you say "freedumb of speech" and all that other stuff that is all going by the wayside if you haven't noticed, especially with demographic change taking place across the West.

Also its not a puppet state?

lol yes, let us all forget about Obama and Victoria Nuland's coup d’état of Yanukovich in 2014, including Nuland authoring their new "constitution" (wherin it says they must join NATO, a violation of the Minsk Agreement), and let's also forget about the whole Joe/Hunter Biden/ Burisma fiasco. If "puppet state" doesn't describe describe it accurately enough for you , "militarily strategic prostitute whore state with no real leadership" definitely should.
Also, was that a question or an answer? Or are you uptalking in text form?

but Ukrainians don't want to?

Most people in Eastern Ukraine definitely do want, and have been wanting, to REJOIN Russia for years. I guess only some Ukranians matter to you. At least the ones you can use to virtue signal off of.
Besides, Almost all of Ukraine was Russia for almost a thousand years.

Not sure what NATO has done that would give Russia right to invade another country, mercilessly bomb its civilians to death and forcibly drive them away from their homeland.

NATO posting up in Ukraine=within missile range of Russia's one and only major naval sea port=Russia's whole navy is put at risk=within missile range of Moscow=imminent danger. Once again: It's like if Russia started shipping missiles into Cuba. Which they did. And the US didn't like it at all.

that would give Russia right to invade another country

Did you clutch your pearls when the US invaded countries? Or does that just apply to Russia/other countries?

mercilessly bomb its civilians to death

lmao what a queen. wtf is a "merciless bombing"? As opposed to a merciful one? And of course they're gonna be bombed to death. Do you even read your own hysterics?

and forcibly drive them away from their homeland.

Again, did you clutch your pearls and pretend to care about these conflicts, too?:

Of course you didn't, because you weren't instructed to.

Not to mention: why the fuck should I "support" Ukraine? What have they done for me? Why should I care? Don't we have enough problems here in the US as it is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy and such?

Your misplaced "empathy" (which isn't real empathy, you're just selfishly trying to virtue signal like a woman) is why America is crumbling. Your stupid feminine grandstanding is ruining everything. We can't fucking care about every single little thing that is happening on planet Earth, you fucking retard. Again, did you sit around thinking about these deaths too? Chances are you just didn't give a fuck:

Also if Russia successfully conquers Ukraine, it will eventually propagate effects to you as well. Even effects of the current conflict will be felt by you via economy at the very least.

You just say that and offer no examples or evidence. You also present this to me as if the economy isn't already crushed. Have you been living under a goddamned rock? Do you remember what they (the same people who are selling you this Ukraine crap) did to the economy under the covid scam? Remember how they absolutely annihilated the middle class? But keep "supporting Ukraine" retard, Jeff Bezos told you to:

Are you stupid? Its not a bad thing to be, but to educate you:
It WILL have HYUGE effect on everybody. Assuming that invasion is very successful, putin probably keeps in power and will gain more confidence.

(a) You act like Putin is the end all be all to Russia. This shows what a low-info moron you are. (b) Putin would've "stayed in power" (he was elected in) whether he invaded or not. Gain more confidence? What the fuck do you mean? Are you viewing this as some sort of video game or something? But please continue...

There is a chance for further escalations

You mean like posting up weapons of mass destruction and troops on someone else's borders within striking range of their navy and capitol city which violates an international agreement where you said explicitly that you wouldn't do that? You mean like that kind of escalation?

which will involve US (WW3 even, though unlikely just like russia actually invading ukraine ).

WW3 is exactly what the Atlantic Council, WEF and the IMF want, and they pull all the strings in the West.

Stance against Russia has changed forever, even days before the invasion many were very confident that they'd not do it.

Should've not poked the hornet's nest then, aye?

There would likely be more sanctions for a very long time, which will again have lots of impact in global economy, Russian economy is not small player by any means.

Sanctions that don't have to be imposed, but are for reasons of war. You just don't seem to understand how bloodthirsty the American regime/Western elites are for war with Russia, China, and Iran. They are the last holdouts from Western style global homogeneity (which merely means membership and subservience to the IMF).

Then there's China, if invasion to Ukraine is successful that will definitely have some impact on how China will view its plans to "unite" Taiwan.

Taiwan is China. It even says in the Taiwanese constitution that they are a territory of China. Go read it. Even the international community acknowledges that Taiwan is China. You are so brainwashed it's scary.

Also if west denies Russia it may get closer to China etc.

lmfao Russia and China are basically best friends now, all THANKS to the West. Maybe Russia would be closer to the West if the West didn't go totally ballistic because Russia did the exact same thing the US does all the fucking time (invading countries)?
It's clear from reading your painful diatribe that you haven't looked into this conflict at all and are just jumping on a bandwagon. Bro, put the fucking tiktok down and go read some shit about the last 20 years in Ukraine. Idiots like you who mindlessly jump on hype get us in messes like the Iraq war. Remember the Iraq War? Fueled off of nothing but bandwagon riding, virtue signalling, and emotions. You're no different than the absolute retards that stood for "liberating" Iraq. Grats.