At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

[Robben_DuMarsch]

They readded it after some people complained.

isnt there a cooldown if u switch or something? seems like a rly ez fix

U right it's EZ.
No CD though.

Devs don't really PvP so it's kinda hard for them to cut through all the people yelling at them about PvP balance. What's ez for you and me is not ez for them.

[joojoo1975]

shit talk and stuff

I had a feeling you would go this way. just saying stuff and not backing up anything, and then just spouting things after points were presented to you.

Sigh

Do not worry sheep, you and I are through here. I tried my best to get you to a point where respectable is a Good thing, but obviously that is something you do not want.

[Kaios]

one creature most players tend to overlook in that regard are ANGLERS which are incredibly easy to keep aggro on for long periods of time

this is why I wasnt sure if the mamoth thing still worked because Im pretty sure the angler thing doesnt, idk if they fixed it or wat, I dont do mammoths but im pretty sure ppl were having to manually find them now

Well yeah someone has to go out there and kill them and grab corpse (butcher in case of mammoth) but pinging bots are definitely still commonplace. No one with access to that needs to go out and manually find them beyond initially finding those high quality locations. Although it's not like killing an angler is difficult and a bot can certainly re-aggro faster than a person when they flee so I would not be surprised if some client developers provided greater levels of automation in that regard. Mammoths are easy too once you actually get them into a pali trap, but I can't say I know if path finding has reached a level of capability as to have them be successfully led to one like that without getting stuck or dropping aggro or something. Most players probably just log another alt in and pull to a pali with a horse when they see the ping.

Plus it's not like they are restricted to only reporting on animals, they can notify upon unknown (or memorized and red, kinned/red, etc.) players and for someone trying to avoid getting in a conflict they can use that to their advantage, for someone seeking a conflict they lose out on the opportunity of a lucrative target and instead get to kill a bot. Conversely, it may be a bot spotting a lucrative target and a player/group rolls out to attack them knowing where they are and perhaps in what direction they are headed. Either way it's bad for both sides of that argument.

[Nocturnal-Rainbows]

I swear people are so fucking disingenuous. It's unreal.
>Bro trust me I've been a part of the biggest villages ever and we never bot
I don't trust you, you lying little shit.
Why don't I trust you? Because I too have been a part of big villages in the past WHICH IS HOW I KNOW, UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THEY BOT and the highest stat players from said village (well-known big named players who I will not call out) used bots to make endless amounts of pies and cheese (This was in World 10 btw). The bots would grind the flour, make the pies, put them in the ovens, fuel the ovens, light the ovens, take the cooked pies out, store them away, then repeat. That bot would be running in another client on an alt btw. The main characters would be out questing or hunting or just sparring with other villagers in the center of the village.
You wanna know why I dropped out the previous world (W9)? It was burn out from making cupboards full of pies. Manually. Trying (foolishly) to keep up with people who were botting it.
I'd forgive you for thinking that the problem is the act of doing it manually, but it isn't, the problem is the infinite stat/skill/quality shit that this game has along with the fact that other factions absofuckinglutely ARE botting making it necessary if you want to compete.
Then said factions, who are all in same discord clique have the gall to come here and pretend like nobody is botting or that botting is some minor fucking advantage lol.

We're coming up to World 16 now. That shit happened during World 10. There are now bots which can perform more complex tasks since then and just like the case I mentioned above those bots are doing all that shit in another client on an alt.

People downplaying bots doing menial tasks like taking care of the creation of your curios, food, animals, farms, steel and silk making as well as pinging you when a high q animal node has a spawn on it is ridiculous. All of that shit adds up. The automation makes it more efficient and more consistent. Consistency and efficiency translates directly into superior characters being made.

Custom clients are also bullshit. In an ideal world they should go away too as they get downplayed just as much for how much they push the needle over into your favour just by having them. We should all be playing on 1 client.

Here's a bot that just casually maps the world out for you too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ffvBdLFns
Throw an alt in a dugout and let it map everything out for you, why waste your time doing that on your main when you can be banging out quests or other shit to get ahead?

[Halbertz]

Here's a bot that just casually maps the world out for you too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ffvBdLFns

This bot is in the Havoc client, which has a publicly available out-of-date version. Just pull it out and swim around.
If you want the same features as the people who spent their time implementing it, you're delusional. Also I don't understand why you care of someone else superiority if you are not actually trying to compete? Want to pull everyone on your level (lazy and retarded)? Not gonna happen

[stya]

You wanna know why I dropped out the previous world (W9)? It was burn out from making cupboards full of pies.

This is really good, we are making progress here. Now please try to remember who made you do it and how it made you feel, so we can discuss in our next group therapy session.

[noindyfikator]

You wanna know why I dropped out the previous world (W9)? It was burn out from making cupboards full of pies.

This is really good, we are making progress here. Now please try to remember who made you do it and how it made you feel, so we can discuss in our next group therapy session.

I forgot about this thread

Don't be rude ok? Everyone can have their own opinion

[stya]

I forgot about this thread

Don't be rude ok? Everyone can have their own opinion

This person clearly has issues and is here to finally be able to move on a be a better person. It clearly is eating him from inside, to the point he is blaming imaginary 'bots' for his suffering. Yes talking about it can be difficult but we are here to help him and go through it together. Now get out of my office!

[Kaios]

Seems like you two did not read his post at all. He made some good points that I happen to agree with, most of those tasks do have some form of automated involvement in relation to bots/scripts.

I really do not understand either how so many of you can be disingenuous or straight up lie about the extent of botting... like stya, we have been in the same village you are aware of that right?

At least be honest with everyone if you’re going to post about it, otherwise it just seems like you as well are trying to downplay the negative effects that occur in many of the recent worlds as a result. Players complaining about bots checking nodes or running around mountains did not always occur with such frequency.

[Zentetsuken]

I swear people are so fucking disingenuous. It's unreal.
>Bro trust me I've been a part of the biggest villages ever and we never bot
I don't trust you, you lying little shit.
Why don't I trust you? Because I too have been a part of big villages in the past WHICH IS HOW I KNOW, UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THEY BOT and the highest stat players from said village (well-known big named players who I will not call out) used bots to make endless amounts of pies and cheese (This was in World 10 btw). The bots would grind the flour, make the pies, put them in the ovens, fuel the ovens, light the ovens, take the cooked pies out, store them away, then repeat. That bot would be running in another client on an alt btw. The main characters would be out questing or hunting or just sparring with other villagers in the center of the village.
You wanna know why I dropped out the previous world (W9)? It was burn out from making cupboards full of pies. Manually. Trying (foolishly) to keep up with people who were botting it.
I'd forgive you for thinking that the problem is the act of doing it manually, but it isn't, the problem is the infinite stat/skill/quality shit that this game has along with the fact that other factions absofuckinglutely ARE botting making it necessary if you want to compete.
Then said factions, who are all in same discord clique have the gall to come here and pretend like nobody is botting or that botting is some minor fucking advantage lol.

We're coming up to World 16 now. That shit happened during World 10. There are now bots which can perform more complex tasks since then and just like the case I mentioned above those bots are doing all that shit in another client on an alt.

People downplaying bots doing menial tasks like taking care of the creation of your curios, food, animals, farms, steel and silk making as well as pinging you when a high q animal node has a spawn on it is ridiculous. All of that shit adds up. The automation makes it more efficient and more consistent. Consistency and efficiency translates directly into superior characters being made.

Custom clients are also bullshit. In an ideal world they should go away too as they get downplayed just as much for how much they push the needle over into your favour just by having them. We should all be playing on 1 client.

Here's a bot that just casually maps the world out for you too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ffvBdLFns
Throw an alt in a dugout and let it map everything out for you, why waste your time doing that on your main when you can be banging out quests or other shit to get ahead?

are the bots together with you in the room?