Why w11 is bad

[azrid]

They have done pretty big changes in the past so it hasnt been as bad always.

[CSPAN]

The changes just aren’t really meaningful. Until they create or change something that add replay-ability, the issues will stay the same.
I’ve been barking about it for years now. But what do I know.

[wonder-ass]

The changes just aren’t really meaningful. Until they create or change something that add replay-ability, the issues will stay the same.
I’ve been barking about it for years now. But what do I know.

indeed stuff like seasons ( which isnt bad content) just doesnt add any replay ability sure it looks amazing but the game is already really lacking in a late game and i dont think focusing on aesthetic is a good idea when your player base is crying for more end game.

[Kaios]

indeed stuff like seasons ( which isnt bad content) just doesnt add any replay ability sure it looks amazing but the game is already really lacking in a late game and i dont think focusing on aesthetic is a good idea when your player base is crying for more end game.

I am hopeful that seasons will at least bring more than the aesthetic change and will be accompanied by some interesting changes too. Jorb was discussing some of it in the stream such as winter seasons impacting crop growth or preventing most crops from being grown altogether. Planting different crops in winter like a few cold acclimated crops could create an interesting dynamic in farming. Hunting would have variability during the seasons, forageables, etc.

One thing that I really think seasons is capable of doing is being a boon to trade goods. For example, you get something rare or valuable in the Winter season and you stock up on it to sell it for a higher value in the Summer. And besides stuff being rare/valuable it also changes access to things, in Winter I'd imagine you could dig snow almost anywhere and maybe soil becomes more difficult to dig up and all soil drops slightly in quality. I dunno, I think there's a lot of content that Seasons could create.

[pheonix]

To be bloody honest the problem this world is one thats been building for a long time. Jorb and loftar fell into the trap of nerfing shit and either ignoring decent ideas or just aint smart enough to code/draw them, we see this every patch and alot of us have grown tired of waiting for them to break out of this cycle.

Ive asked for more animals or simple reskins of current models and placed into the mines mountains etc to make them harder to go into, but alas because they didnt think of them its straight into the bin with that idea. Many designers have that same thought process " I didnt think of it therefore it must suck and i know best".

Take combat for an example, every faction made recommendations each time told NO, we asked to test in Valhalla answered with no and dropped on main server and then it wasn't even close to anything anyone said just another strange idea to be unique but sucks in practice. They're not going to progress very far at their rate until they stop and have a bit of self reflection but dont worry im sure a few more silly hats will solve everything.

And btw incase anyone was wondering i draw alot of this from the fact that after they sold salem and the guy who bought it hired 1 coder and 1 art designer and pumped out tons of content in a year most of it was good(then he went bat shit crazy and fucked the game up trying to be hardcore) , hell they did seasons in a few weeks and we've been waiting years.

[MightySheep]

in my expert opinion
- people are burnt out its literally the same dudes world after world fighting each other etc (then they blame current world)
- jorbtar prob burnt out they clearly released a bunch of big new stuff w10 then chilled out after w11 release cuz the updates are pretty meh, I called it early that they stopped giving a fuck
- dumb exploits and bad game mechnics slap in the face for people trying to seriously compete
- game is a full time job
- perma death seems unpopular
- siege is gay

and my biggest criticsm is wtf has happened to eating? does anyone actually enjoy that aspect on the game? always love telling people "if youre starving dont eat food" followed by a 1 hour lecture on how and when to eat some fuken berries in order to simply play the game without ruining their character

all that being said ill see u w12

[Kaios]

- people are burnt out its literally the same dudes world after world fighting each other etc (then they blame current world)

Another reason why having a small population has been very bad for this game, same people always on top and same groups are always getting targeted/fighting with each other. With such a small community in which everyone knows everyone and there is hardly any new prospects it is difficult to even recruit players in to a village/faction also considering the high risk of infiltration involved in that.

The forum never gets shown any love either, I don't like how dead it is now it just makes the situation look that much worse.

[Lyrroth]

Another reason why having a small population has been very bad for this game

false

same people always on top and same groups are always getting targeted/fighting with each other.

yes because every village i joined strived to aim to be the best without a true commitment. empty words for (non)competetive people

With such a small community in which everyone knows everyone and there is hardly any new prospects it is difficult to even recruit players in to a village/faction also considering the high risk of infiltration involved in that.

false. late w10 and now, factions or known group recruit fresh blood. fresh blood usually dont stick around too long anyway. thats all i know.

The forum never gets shown any love either, I don't like how dead it is now it just makes the situation look that much worse.

seems pvp on forum is just better and no real talk exist

[Kaios]

false

What a persuasive argument, you've convinced me to change my mind. Give me some good reasons why a small population on a game such as this is ideal? The game thrives on the world feeling alive and one of the key components to that is having active players that contribute to an ever-changing environment.

yes because every village i joined strived to aim to be the best without a true commitment. empty words for (non)competetive people

I'm not really sure what you are saying here? Most players I know don't aim to be the best, they aim to have fun.

false. late w10 and now, factions or known group recruit fresh blood. fresh blood usually dont stick around too long anyway. thats all i know.

I never said they didn't I said it's difficult and there are very good reasons why many players avoid recruitment via the forum unless they have the time and inclination to setup security measures such as recruiting villages or separated areas.

seems pvp on forum is just better and no real talk exist

That's pretty inconsiderate thinking towards all the people that contribute their opinions to threads like this and take the time to write out serious criticisms or suggestions.

[jordancoles]

The forum never gets shown any love either, I don't like how dead it is now it just makes the situation look that much worse.

I think Discord is more to blame for that than anything. I post haven stuff every day pretty much, but basically none of it makes it to the forums anymore since everyone who would see it is in our discord or the old HH discord

Moot could use some more threads for sure but since no real raids happen Im not sure what a "good" moot thread would even look like anymore