Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Jalpha » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:59 pm

Ad hominem is the lowest tool in the debaters arsenal. Usually this seems to be the pattern, a few fairly intelligent posts which soon degenerate into what seems to be posts for the sake of posting with little to no substance.

When it reaches that point it's best to just let it rest tbh.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Burinn » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:59 pm

Jalpha wrote:Ad hominem is the lowest tool in the debaters arsenal. Usually this seems to be the pattern, a few fairly intelligent posts which soon degenerate into what seems to be posts for the sake of posting with little to no substance.

When it reaches that point it's best to just let it rest tbh.


Thanks Jalpha, I was hoping that was obvious from the list of quotes I put in my last post. There's no sense in arguing with people like that who try to claim they have good intentions.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Hasta » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:02 pm

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Hasta wrote:No, I was not making any snide comments or hidden insults in that last post, as I stated in it.

Yes. And that absolves you of everything you already said. Please, call an excavation team to remove your head from its lodged position.

And what is it that absolves you from everything you said? I am making the first step here. I am open to compromise and dialog; not because I am "wrong", but because I am ready to see other people's positions and I firmly believe that "being 100% sure is rarely a sign of wisdom".

I am offering you, for a 3rd time, from this moment on, an honest, open, constructive and, most of all, friendly discussion, without perceiving each other as an enemy and looking for arguments to disprove and shun each other, rather than those to support own opinion. What is your answer?
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Burinn » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:03 pm

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Burinn wrote:
Hasta wrote:No, I was not making any snide comments or hidden insults in that last post, as I stated in it.

Yes. And that absolves you of everything you already said. Please, call an excavation team to remove your head from its lodged position.

And what is it that absolves you from everything you said? I am making the first step here. I am open to compromise and dialog; not because I am "wrong", but because I am ready to see other people's positions and I firmly believe that "being 100% sure is rarely a sign of wisdom".

I am offering you, for a 3rd time, from this moment on, an honest, open, constructive and, most of all, friendly discussion, without perceiving each other as an enemy and looking for arguments to disprove and shun each other, rather than those to support own opinion. What is your answer?


I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was the person who in every single post puts something like "I am the most sincere person on the forum", "I never insult anyone", or "I only speak with rationalism in each post". You're projecting onto me Hasta. I am not interested in discussing this with someone as indignant as you seem to be.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Jalpha » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:05 pm

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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Hasta » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:06 pm

Can't say I didn't expect that, and it's understandable. Honesty and openness are much harder to maintain than hostility and self-righteousness. Maybe some other time, when you're ready.
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Atamzsiktrop » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:30 pm

Burinn wrote:
Hasta wrote:
Burinn wrote:Yes. And that absolves you of everything you already said. Please, call an excavation team to remove your head from its lodged position.

And what is it that absolves you from everything you said? I am making the first step here. I am open to compromise and dialog; not because I am "wrong", but because I am ready to see other people's positions and I firmly believe that "being 100% sure is rarely a sign of wisdom".

I am offering you, for a 3rd time, from this moment on, an honest, open, constructive and, most of all, friendly discussion, without perceiving each other as an enemy and looking for arguments to disprove and shun each other, rather than those to support own opinion. What is your answer?


I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was the person who in every single post puts something like "I am the most sincere person on the forum", "I never insult anyone", or "I only speak with rationalism in each post". You're projecting onto me Hasta. I am not interested in discussing this with someone as indignant as you seem to be.


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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Eemerald » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:56 pm

Hasta wrote:Ofcourse that was a joke. I was seriously considering asking Em to take me in but hesitated for some reasons. "You take forum posts too seriously" ©someone.


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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Eemerald » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:00 am

when I used to debate with people in forums, the guys would never give up having the last word of an argument, even when it's gone down hill!!

though you guys are much more polite :D
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Re: Is Brexit rooted in deep psychological white-guilt?

Postby Ysh » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:05 am

Eemerald wrote:though you guys are much more polite :D

Difference here is that we are all friends on this forum.
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