Are Icicles too good?

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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby loftar » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:00 pm

SuSavage wrote:This game is about domination (recources, territory, etc), not about peacifull hippies.

I would argue it is about both.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby barra » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:06 pm

SuSavage wrote:You have time to claim it all now, or fight for these places later. Rightly? I think yes.

Those can be done, yes, but I don't see how that explains making one of the new resources massively more valuable than the others. If it reduced the remaining time by 50% I think it would be fine, but the instant study makes it amazing. Maybe it's balanced by a much slower regeneration rate or something, time will tell how that works.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby ven » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:16 pm

I also think ice spires and abyss smokes are unbalancing, but to be fair the HHP healing leaves are far worse than both.

All of them should decay in 2 hours or so, that would make it less dramatic.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby SuSavage » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:24 pm

loftar wrote:
SuSavage wrote:This game is about domination (recources, territory, etc), not about peacifull hippies.

I would argue it is about both.

I agree with you. But peaciful hippies continue to play and they do not care about equity in sharing of resources, politis, raids.

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SuSavage wrote:You have time to claim it all now, or fight for these places later. Rightly? I think yes.

Those can be done, yes, but I don't see how that explains making one of the new resources massively more valuable than the others. If it reduced the remaining time by 50% I think it would be fine, but the instant study makes it amazing. Maybe it's balanced by a much slower regeneration rate or something, time will tell how that works.

I like new system. You can do all what you want and do not care about death and stats domination. Stats cap and new items for quick leveling it's good. The new style of play Hafen, old is not relevant. This is how i see this game now.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby Garfy » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:43 pm

Mother of Pearls are way too good too. Anyone who found one of them day one got a free 40,000 lp in just over 5 hours.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby sabinati » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:08 pm

Garfy wrote:Mother of Pearls are way too good too. Anyone who found one of them day one got a free 40,000 lp in just over 5 hours.


It's not like you can't catch up
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby shubla » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:09 pm

sabinati wrote:
Garfy wrote:Mother of Pearls are way too good too. Anyone who found one of them day one got a free 40,000 lp in just over 5 hours.


It's not like you can't catch up

40 000lp in early game takes few days. Its quite OP start.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby Garfy » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:12 pm

sabinati wrote:
Garfy wrote:Mother of Pearls are way too good too. Anyone who found one of them day one got a free 40,000 lp in just over 5 hours.


It's not like you can't catch up


4k LP in a few hours is massive when most people are still studying cone cows.
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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby sabinati » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:26 pm

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Re: Are Icicles too good?

Postby VDZ » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:58 pm

ven wrote:All of them should decay in 2 hours or so, that would make it less dramatic.


Most of them do, in fact, decay. I'm not sure how long you can store them. The Travel Weariness leaves seem to be an exception to this, unless the devs just forgot to add that to the description.
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