DiS abusing the system with 6 Vclaims around an inner Vclaim

[Kalacia]

lol wtf this guy smoking, players who always try to break game are best testers and as ur saying "ermagerd bad devs!" because he doesnt just ban the entire village? you are obviously butthurt about something

yarp, abusing bugs now... before release is exactly what people should be doing. This is an "alpha" afterall.

[springyb]

It is a sad state of dev leadershipwhateverblablabla that I don't blame others for what are obviously shortcomings in my design?

I disagree.

In the future you're going to need to draw a line, though. You can't always blame yourself or your design when players take advantage of bugs or (quite obviously) unintended mechanics that break the game in order to get an advantage over your players who play honestly.

why does he need to draw a line? he needs people to find the flaws in stuff they build so that he can fix them. if he says that people cant do X and Y and people do it anyway but it isnt hurting anyone else directly its still abuse, but unseen. so its better to let people find stuff like this out and report it here on the forum to them.

Because some exploits get your village nuked while some are deemed okay even though both are detrimental to people who compete without cheating.

PSA: You can report bugs or design flaws -without- exploiting them for an advantage.

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

The question is has Dis (if this is Dis) filed a report prior to making this?

[Ronin30]

As such and in itself it doesn't even hurt anyone.

This where I have a problem and draw the line. Of course it doesn't "hurt" people directly, but don't you think being basically unraidable for the remainder of this world is a teensy bit of an issue?
Especially for a pvp faction? You have made no remarks about "fixing" this.

For christs sake you are talking about more time needed to raid this in game then most people are PHYSICALLY ABLE to "game" in a continuous session? 4-5 days STRAIGHT
If you were to even disapear for even an hour to power nap all your siege could disappear.
And also of course they would just move all high quality loot to the next town over from the shield you are currently working on breaking.
This stinks in a plethora of ways no matter how you look at it.

Might consider some changes

Would this be the kind of changes like

Oh hai, we messd up with pclaiming the special resources, but good news, if you already mass pclaimed YOU ARE GRAVY sorry newfags kek gg can'tneverraidDislol

[jordancoles]

There is really no point in even trying to raid a town like that, you will get no loot. All they will do is move loot from town to town.

another valid point as to why this is a pretty absurd abuse of mechanics

People move loot regardless of using this type of village claim usage

If people have time to prepare they will always move and alt vault their shit, very rarely will you actually get loot from sieging and active group, or even a semi-active one

[Turtlesir]

gotta admire that Dis ingenuity.^^

[bmjclark]

I mean, there are plenty of other scummy players who abuse bugs and openly admit to botting. Trying to accuse Dis of being the only ones is a bit of a stretch.

You mean like everyone who uses amber clients auto study bot? Or auto mine bot?

[Ronin30]

This was spoken about and known in various skype/ts channels as soon as the "Prelude Pt II" thread was dropped by jorb. We never assumed someone would be gay enough to actually do it though.

[alioli]

Of course it was DiS though, no one will be surprised.

World after world this group maliciously attempts to sway the game in their favor through any means possible(abusing bugs/mechanics/walljumps etC) and yet you allow them to persist.

This is actually a sad state of dev leadership and judgement at this point. If they are in your game - they are attempting to break it.

Disallowing them to exist - since they now likely pay to play the game to some degree is a little bit over the top if i'm going to be honest. It's a sandbox; There's going to be scum - and they have to exist to some degree. They should obviously be punished for abusing systems, like the walljump and such - but this system you're talking about now doesn't sound like "willing abuse" but more like "this works really well, let's stick with it" with little to no knowledge of the intent of the system behind it.
Jorb and Loftar has in the past punished abuse of bugs etc - and I trust them to do that in their own discretion; No need for us to play police.

[jordancoles]

We never assumed someone would be gay enough to actually do it though.

Always always assume someone will be gay enough to actually do it

Dis does it every world without fail lol, it's sort of disappointing when they don't, really