Happy Early July 4th (or current)

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

I have a feeling Loftar loves his Eu more than America, Jorb at least has a reasonable love for America yes?

No one loves america if you exclude brainwashed ones.

We have to Make America Great Again™
I actually like the US and I am not from there, people just like to hate without reason.

[shubla]

people just like to hate without reason.

There is so much fucked up stuff in US such as laws, police forces, government spying on its own citizens.
Also they are constnatly in war killing people in foreign countries.
There are LOT of good reasons to hate usa.

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

people just like to hate without reason.

There is so much fucked up stuff in US such as laws, police forces, government spying on its own citizens.
Also they are constnatly in war killing people in foreign countries.
There are LOT of good reasons to hate usa.

No reason for me to hate them. I have been, the country is safe, people are nice and shit is cheap.

[Yoru]

people just like to hate without reason.

There is so much fucked up stuff in US such as laws, police forces, government spying on its own citizens.
Also they are constnatly in war killing people in foreign countries.
There are LOT of good reasons to hate usa.

No reason for me to hate them. I have been, the country is safe, people are nice and shit is cheap.

This is why aliens don't want to visit us.

[Salad]

There is so much fucked up stuff in US such as laws, police forces, government spying on its own citizens.
Also they are constnatly in war killing people in foreign countries.
There are LOT of good reasons to hate usa.

I can agree that the police force in the USA is overzealous, Some of our laws are strange, and our willingness to kill people in other countries is unsettling.

However don't act like these things are exclusive to us.

Your Government might not be out in the open about it's surveillance of it's people, but don't act stupid and think that they can't and don't do it, because they do and they will when they feel like it.

Let's also act like no European country has never been in any of the wars on terror or against communism in any way shape or form and is not willing to destroy the lives of millions of people all because they don't take on their own ideology or political systems Instead of just leaving them be and letting them sort the shit out for themselves.

Your laws are about as draconian as ours, throughout all of Europe. even so, if they were to ban guns in my country, i'd just buy one illegally anyways because I feel as if it's something I would need to protect myself in modern day society, where every time I go into a large city I feel like someone is going to end up mugging my ass.

So; tell me, why do you hate the USA any more than any other country? It's not like we're any different than yours. we're all human here, even if the establishments above us are a bit fucky sometimes.

[Hasta]

why do you hate the USA any more than any other country?

Who says anything about hating USA more? Those arguments are not for comparison, those are just reasons for hate. USA is eligible to be hated for those reasons. The fact that other countries are also eligible doesn't make it any different. "This apple is red! - Look, this apple is also red so that first apple is less red" - see? Doesn't make much sense.

[Salad]

why do you hate the USA any more than any other country?

Who says anything about hating USA more? Those arguments are not for comparison, those are just reasons for hate. USA is eligible to be hated for those reasons. The fact that other countries are also eligible doesn't make it any different. "This apple is red! - Look, this apple is also red so that first apple is less red" - see? Doesn't make much sense.

I could say the same for races of people but that'd be wrong of me to do from a moral standpoint.

Oh and i'd probably get banned too.

[Hasta]

I could say the same for races of people

No, you couldn't. People don't choose their race. Completely unrelated issue.

There's a saying in English language I guess? "Two wrongs don't make it right", yes? Kinda summarizes my previous post's concept.

[Salad]

I could say the same for races of people

No, you couldn't. People don't choose their race. Completely unrelated issue.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't choose to be born in my country.

I'd move but I don't see my nationality as an issue.

[Hasta]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't choose to be born in my country.

Noone is hating you, as far as I can see. We're discussing why people hate USA. You say "every country has reasons to be hated". I say, "that doesn't makes less reasons for USA". You say "I can say so about races". I say "no you can't, hating on a race is wrong; hating on a country for reasons is legit: racial hate reasons can't be applied to every person of that race; those persons did not went and "formed" their race, they were just born that way; there's no "racial government" that does stupid thiongs and makes people hate the race for that. Country politics causing reasons for hate also don't apply that hate on that country's people (at least, if the hating person is somewhat smart), but they make people hate that government; if the country is democratic - then the government represents will of majority of people; if that will is perceived as ill by other countries' people - they hate that country." So, what it has to do with you being born in USA?