Would Jorbtar move to America?

[Potjeh]

Not helping them is one thing, but actively fucking up their countries for oil is another. There'd be a lot less refugees if Sadam and Gaddafi were still alive.

[Grog]

I dont mean we should actively go and kill them.
We should only let them die. Not help them. Because we cant. When they run out of food due to aridity caused by climate change and stuff.

Life is cruel.

Luckily it's not that cruel to you, which makes it rather easy to say that, right? You live in one of the wealthiest countries of the world.

[Kearn]

vote sweden democrats imo

[shubla]

You live in one of the wealthiest countries of the world.

And I'd like to keep it that way.

Finland was not that great not too long ago. We were crappy poor country ruined by war and stuff. People were stupid and industrialization was nowhere to be found. We did not have, and we still got no valuable natural resources like oil or such. But brave Finnish men did not give up and flee to other countries.

If around 800 000 immigrants are ignored, but they did not go to rape, they had proper education and stuff
some people have suggested that this is the reason why sweden has things bad now
they thought that immigrants = good, because their previous experience from immigrants were civilized highly educated finnish people
but now they get bunch of badly educated barbarians that only want to abuse their welfare system and get their women.

Instead they did hard work in order to achieve the quality of life which all Finns are now living. But now it is threatened. By economic refugees and rapists. It must be stopped. We need to build a wall and get out of the landmine agreement. So we can not only build a wall, but lay mines in our borders.

[iamahh]

I dont mean we should actively go and kill them.
We should only let them die. Not help them. Because we cant. When they run out of food due to aridity caused by climate change and stuff.

Life is cruel.

Luckily it's not that cruel to you, which makes it rather easy to say that, right? You live in one of the wealthiest countries of the world.

secularism can't adapt large groups of immigrants, that was the job of culture, but nowadays that's gone...

[shubla]

Amount of problems caused is amount of immigrants to the power of two.
The more there is refugees/immigrants. More problems.

But if we only take like 10 immigrants / year. What will we do to millions of others?

Conclusion is that no one can help them.

[Jalpha]

Australia has had the highest rate of immigration per person already in the country than anywhere else in the world for decades. I challenge you to find any country with a high rate of immigration which suffers fewer social issues than we do.

But we're racist because of our immigration policies.

Have fun with your immigration issues HA HA HA. Maybe you should learn from the best in the game.

Also pretty sure Jorbtar are massive fans of hardline capitalism so I can definitely envisage them moving to the states when they are rich.

[jordancoles]

ITT Shubla is an asshole

It's true though that even if every country were to double their yearly intake of immigrants/refugees they still wouldn't put a dent in the total number of people living in poverty/suffering world-wide

[Jalpha]

To be hideously blunt, and feel free to call me a racist I can't care less, but the following is unarguably true and we have learnt it from the way we tried to deal with the aboriginals here.

You can't help these people, they are the only ones who can help themselves. If you try they will only drag you down with them. They don't want and won't accept your help but they will take your money.

[MagicManICT]

Should they be helped? Maybe.
But we dont have resources to help even small portion of them.
There are literally millions, and hundreds of millions more coming soon due to climate change.

Won't most of Finland go underwater then? Or, if the alternate theories of global warming come to pass, such as what could happen when the Greenland ice cap melts throwing Europe into another ice age, won't Finland be entirely too cold to live in? Then this might me you could be a climate refugee in your lifetime. (Then again, Finland could become more agrarian and have a strong food supply for the world that's in upheaval because of all the climate changes.)

To note about immigrants in the US... many are fleeing the US towards Canada due to all the immigration policy hoopla from Trump, much of which is (currently) illegal or unconstitutional: https://www.google.com/search?q=immigra ... 8&oe=utf-8

As far as jorbtar, yeah, they'd be welcomed here as they're game developers and, assuming, making a profitable business. (Assuming because they haven't put this on the back burner yet for full time jobs, but they may be looking and haven't told us.)

To be hideously blunt, and feel free to call me a racist I can't care less, but the following is unarguably true and we have learnt it from the way we tried to deal with the aboriginals here.

Well, the native tribes in the US finagled their way into the casino resort industry. Pretty much right, though, and that's true of anyone you try to give welfare to. People don't always stay on it, but it doesn't take much to go from getting a hand up to getting a hand out.