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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby ricky » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:32 pm

US here. we tip 20% around these parts out of respect and such.

@granger, i dont think its federal law for employers to make up the difference between minimum wage and server wages, but i do think its a state law in lots of states. source: family member works as a waitress


shifting the topic a

1. have your food cheap and tip or have your 'tip' built into the menu price
personally I would be fine with paying extra/regular price and have waiting/hosting staff to have set wages.

2. tipping encourages wait staff to be polite and courteous
being paid a set wage doesnt encourage wait staff to earn their tips at which point they become minimum wage drones
( i think this is kind of a bullshit reason but its a reason people state)

3. pooling tips/wait staff being forced to split tips with cooks/dishwashers
this really grinds my gears. some restaurants pool tips and divvy the cash out to cooks/dishwashers, usually 10-20% of tips, and then the rest is split between wait staff. this one really gets me and if you're in the US you should really try to tip cash or ask your waiter if they pool tips.

4. mandatory 'gratuity fee' on parties of 8 or more.
basically forced tipping if you have a large party
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:35 pm

ricky wrote:US here. we tip 20% around these parts out of respect and such.

@granger, i dont think its federal law for employers to make up the difference between minimum wage and server wages, but i do think its a state law in lots of states. source: family member works as a waitress


shifting the topic a

1. have your food cheap and tip or have your 'tip' built into the menu price
personally I would be fine with paying extra/regular price and have waiting/hosting staff to have set wages.

2. tipping encourages wait staff to be polite and courteous
being paid a set wage doesnt encourage wait staff to earn their tips at which point they become minimum wage drones
( i think this is kind of a bullshit reason but its a reason people state)

3. pooling tips/wait staff being forced to split tips with cooks/dishwashers
this really grinds my gears. some restaurants pool tips and divvy the cash out to cooks/dishwashers, usually 10-20% of tips, and then the rest is split between wait staff. this one really gets me and if you're in the US you should really try to tip cash or ask your waiter if they pool tips.

4. mandatory 'gratuity fee' on parties of 8 or more.
basically forced tipping if you have a large party

Thank you for thoughts. Pooling tip is definite very bad! More communist meddling.

What is your opinion on tip with good instead of cash?
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby ricky » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:41 pm

Ysh wrote:Thank you for thoughts. Pooling tip is definite very bad! More communist meddling.

What is your opinion on tip with good instead of cash?


I dont often find myself in a position to give anything of value to the wait staff, especially in the 5-10 dollar range. leaving trinkets or baubles seems more of an insult than a gratuity to the wait staff.

unless you had something really cool, unique, or expensive to gift the wait staff I'd say it's not acceptable
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:42 pm

ricky wrote:
Ysh wrote:Thank you for thoughts. Pooling tip is definite very bad! More communist meddling.

What is your opinion on tip with good instead of cash?


I dont often find myself in a position to give anything of value to the wait staff, especially in the 5-10 dollar range. leaving trinkets or baubles seems more of an insult than a gratuity to the wait staff.

unless you had something really cool, unique, or expensive to gift the wait staff I'd say it's not acceptable

You have example of some thing you think is acceptable because it is cool, unique, expensive to gift?
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby ricky » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:46 pm

Ysh wrote:
ricky wrote:
Ysh wrote:Thank you for thoughts. Pooling tip is definite very bad! More communist meddling.

What is your opinion on tip with good instead of cash?


I dont often find myself in a position to give anything of value to the wait staff, especially in the 5-10 dollar range. leaving trinkets or baubles seems more of an insult than a gratuity to the wait staff.

unless you had something really cool, unique, or expensive to gift the wait staff I'd say it's not acceptable

You have example of some thing you think is acceptable because it is cool, unique, expensive to gift?


respectively:

giving a signed baseball card to someone who you previously knew collects baseball cards
giving handmade jewelry to your waiter
giving a plane ticket to your waiter
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:52 pm

ricky wrote:giving handmade jewelry to your waiter

Must jewlery be valuable metal or rock like gold or diamond? Or can it be some mundane things like human teeth on sturdy string?
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby ricky » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:53 pm

Ysh wrote:
ricky wrote:giving handmade jewelry to your waiter

Must jewlery be valuable metal or rock like gold or diamond? Or can it be some mundane things like human teeth on sturdy string?


as a general rule: it has to be shiny enough for a magpie to want to steal
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:55 pm

ricky wrote:
Ysh wrote:
ricky wrote:giving handmade jewelry to your waiter

Must jewlery be valuable metal or rock like gold or diamond? Or can it be some mundane things like human teeth on sturdy string?


as a general rule: it has to be shiny enough for a magpie to want to steal

So ball of aluminum foil is ok?
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby Granger » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:56 pm

Ysh wrote:If it is a more difficult job to care for children than to look after money, this market will correct.

You're delusional.
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Re: Good Tipping?

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:01 pm

Granger wrote:
Ysh wrote:If it is a more difficult job to care for children than to look after money, this market will correct.

You're delusional.

Go troll somewhere else little boy.
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