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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby NOOBY93 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:14 pm

Ninijutsu wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:No it is not, chess skill is definitely correlated with intelligence. Is an idiot who has played 2000 matches going to beat a genius who is playing for the first time? Of course. Is an idiot who has played 2000 matches going to lose to a genius who has played 2000 matches? Of course. Every game is correlated with intelligence.

http://www.futurity.org/chess-intellige ... 1247052-2/

“We analyzed a half-century worth of research on intelligence and chess skill and found that cognitive ability contributes meaningfully to individual differences in chess skill.”

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Contrarian as always I see.

My main point is simply that chess is not significantly different from another game like League of Legends, in that time spent studying and practicing the game itself brings you knowledge that is really only applicable to that game, and is something that cannot be circumvented by pure cognitive ability.

You said one thing and meant another. How am I to know you don't mean what you say? Chess skill is correlated with intelligence, it just is. Does that mean a very intelligent person will ever beat a very experienced player? No.
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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:19 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
Onep wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote: Every game is correlated with intelligence.


Umm... I'm pretty sure the average IQ of an American football professional is well below average.

If every other factor were a constant, dumb players would be outplayed by smart players. I'd say the reason for what you said is that smart men are not attracted to such careers.

No, it's that concussions, which are associated with American footbal (NFL) and things like heading a football (soccer for us Americans), make you dumber.

Aside from that, though, there are always exceptions, and you have to have a sort of training and intelligence to excel in any physical sport, so you can't be stupid and be good, even if the rest of your cognitive abilities are lacking or have been ruined because of too many shots to the head.

Ninijutsu wrote:My main point is simply that chess is not significantly different from another game like League of Legends, in that time spent studying and practicing the game itself brings you knowledge that is really only applicable to that game, and is something that cannot be circumvented by pure cognitive ability.


You're correct, and a strong intelligence helps in absorbing the game. When all other things are equal, the smarter player usually has the upper hand, just as Nooby says. Players that lack a creative intelligence can't anticipate or develop deeper strategies* needed to play any game or sport on a higher level. (*In the case of team sports, the coach usually comes up with the strategies, but it takes smarts to implement such plays and be able to read the opponents to successfully execute.)

I think you've completely taken my comments out to left field, though.
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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby Onep » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:34 pm

I forgot this was a thread talking about jorb and loftar fighting.
I think that jorbtar should live stream a traditional Greek style wrestling match to put an end to this debate. Clothing, obviously, is forbidden.
Either that or a sumo match.
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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby Burinn » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:23 pm

Onep wrote:I forgot this was a thread talking about jorb and loftar fighting.
I think that jorbtar should live stream a traditional Greek style wrestling match to put an end to this debate. Clothing, obviously, is forbidden.
Either that or a sumo match.


How about a true competition of wit and brawn? Chess boxing

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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby Pupsi » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:46 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
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From this picture we see that loftar has a larger head, indicating a bigger brain. He may use his superior intellect to use dirty tricks in the fight while jorb just uses mindless punches.

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Here we see that loftar also has wider shoulders, which correlates with higher upper body strength. Not only is he more intelligent, but he seems to be stronger as well. We haven't seen any of their legs yet though.

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From this we may conclude that jorb is shortsighted. Either he would have to wear glasses, which gives him a weak point, or he would be at a severe disadvantage.

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While loftar is clearly superior in every way so far, jorb has homeless man facial hair, indicating he might try a wildcard approach to the fight. With Jorb, you never know. I'd bet my money on loftar though. I think jorb would get absolutely decked in <1min.

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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby Sollar » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:00 pm

I'd like to see them in wrestling suits, wearing HnH hats and tossing midgets at eachother. That should decide once and for all who is the Alpha
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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby azrid » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:25 pm

That sounds like a fun browser game.
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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby MightySheep » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:58 pm

Jorb would probably win, loftar is clearly someone who has spend majority of his life behind a screen, his bone density and muscle tone probably very weak.

Not that Jorb is much better but still I think hed win, he look like he been in some fights back in his homeless days.
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Re: Jorb Or loftar

Postby Bacaaah » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:57 pm

MightySheep wrote:Jorb would probably win, loftar is clearly someone who has spend majority of his life behind a screen, his bone density and muscle tone probably very weak.

Not that Jorb is much better but still I think hed win, he look like he been in some fights back in his homeless days.

Exactly, that's why i'd put my money on jorb :D .
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