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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby jordancoles » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:36 pm

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$6 shipping for a piece of paper?

That's a little too steep for me, I guess I'll have to pass
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby shubla » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:47 pm

MagicManICT wrote:Certain copies of a Black Lotus from Magic: the Gathering has a 5 figure aftermarket value now (or close to it).

In Japan there are many stores that sell cards for various games. (Such as magic the gathering or what it is called)
I think that some stores were ONLY selling (and buying) cards.
Most of the cards were not that expensive though.
Selling cards is a big, big business (at least in some countries, such as Japan).
I guess then there are some really rich people too who pay for these most expensive cards.
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby Vassteel » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:47 am

shubla wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:Certain copies of a Black Lotus from Magic: the Gathering has a 5 figure aftermarket value now (or close to it).

In Japan there are many stores that sell cards for various games. (Such as magic the gathering or what it is called)
I think that some stores were ONLY selling (and buying) cards.
Most of the cards were not that expensive though.
Selling cards is a big, big business (at least in some countries, such as Japan).
I guess then there are some really rich people too who pay for these most expensive cards.



actually most of the stupid shit you see for sale with a crazy high price is more likely to be money laundering than anything else.
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby jordancoles » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:40 am

Vassteel wrote:
shubla wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:Certain copies of a Black Lotus from Magic: the Gathering has a 5 figure aftermarket value now (or close to it).

In Japan there are many stores that sell cards for various games. (Such as magic the gathering or what it is called)
I think that some stores were ONLY selling (and buying) cards.
Most of the cards were not that expensive though.
Selling cards is a big, big business (at least in some countries, such as Japan).
I guess then there are some really rich people too who pay for these most expensive cards.



actually most of the stupid shit you see for sale with a crazy high price is more likely to be money laundering than anything else.

Where I'm from we launder our money by selling mattresses and dish washers
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby Sevenless » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:41 pm

I found 5 mattress stores within 1km of each other in my home town. I've never once seen one of them with a customer.

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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby Cingal » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:22 pm

I dislike the idea of sub tokens being a tradable good.
I think it affects the economy in negative ways and throws the pricing of goods very out of whack and is against the spirit of the game to have real money or tokens of real money value as an ingame bartering chip.


However, ultimately, the genie is out of the bottle on that front, and whilst it's something I'd like to see experimented with in the future, it's just a matter of not engaging with it at the current moment of time.
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby loftar » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:47 pm

Let me just add to what Jorb said by stating that, in the event that there are disputes because of RMT (such as "someone" changing the password on your account, or similar issues), and you start PMing us about it, it's highly likely that we'll just ban the account rather than transferring it to either party. We've dealt with other cases of account sharing in similar ways previously.
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby shubla » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:02 pm

loftar wrote:Let me just add to what Jorb said by stating that, in the event that there are disputes because of RMT (such as "someone" changing the password on your account, or similar issues), and you start PMing us about it, it's highly likely that we'll just ban the account rather than transferring it to either party. We've dealt with other cases of account sharing in similar ways previously.

What if somebody hacks my account. Then forges some chatlogs and paypal transfers?
I think its quite problematic to ban somebody for such things, because what is evidence that can be considered to be true?
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Re: Developer stance on real money transactions.

Postby loftar » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:06 pm

shubla wrote:What if somebody hacks my account. Then forges some chatlogs and paypal transfers?

I don't take external chatlogs as serious evidence to begin with, so that wouldn't count into anything. I've no idea how you'd "fake" paypal transfers. It's usually obvious from the logs whether an account has been "hacked", shared or willingly transferred.
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