Gulf War 2 - Electric Boogaloo

[MightySheep]

Yeah, the day after Trump unilaterally pulls out of the Iran deal. I can't imagine why Iranians would be pissed.

https://youtu.be/9jiW0orYnPU theres a death to america chant for any day you want, its practically their countries slogan at this point

and Soleiman was the guy tasked with putting those words into action and has been for a long time

you can argue the ramifications arent worth the cost but theres no argument that it was somehow unjust

[Zentetsuken]

Yeah, the day after Trump unilaterally pulls out of the Iran deal. I can't imagine why Iranians would be pissed.

https://youtu.be/9jiW0orYnPU theres a death to america chant for any day you want, its practically their countries slogan at this point

and Soleiman was the guy tasked with putting those words into action and has been for a long time

you can argue the ramifications arent worth the cost but theres no argument that it was somehow unjust

That's a slippery slope there. If military/government officials inciting militant-level hatred justifies an assassination I think there are 1000s of people across the globe in many different countries including america that could "justly" have their innards sprayed over the road in an explosive drone missile attack.

Oh, and fuck anybody who happens to be nearby, they justly deserve to die too, right? Collateral damage.

[MightySheep]

It's not the words that justified it, its the actions he did.

Solemain has been a target of the US intelligence/military for a long time, the only reason they never took him our earlier during Obama years was because they feared the political ramifications.

Trump gives less fucks but still perfectly justified in doing what he did. This isn't the same as some meddling affair or regime change attempt, practically this guys whole raison d'être was to fund terrorists and undermining America in any way possible. People just assume its somehow the same as all the previous nonsense like killing Gaddafi or getting involved in Syria, Libya etc but its not, this guy was a legitimate threat to America.

[shubla]

Basically:
Iran killed 1 us citizen.

US decided to get revenge by killing 25 Iranians.

Some Iranian protesters tried to get in US embassy in Iraq, throwing rocks, spraying walls etc. But they (surprisingly) failed to get in. No one died or anything.

US Decides to get revenge for rock throwing by killing around 7+ people, with one of them being very, very respected military general, who is currently being buried with tens of thousands attending the funeral.
US also says that if Iranians try to get revenge, they will bomb 52 targets in Iran, including "very important" Iranian cultural sites.

There is national mourning period in Iran, but after that, they will probably get their revenge.

US really is a dick country. In my opinion they have earned everything that will be done against them.

[iamahh]

It's not the words that justified it, its the actions he did.

Solemain has been a target of the US intelligence/military for a long time, the only reason they never took him our earlier during Obama years was because they feared the political ramifications.

Trump gives less fucks but still perfectly justified in doing what he did. This isn't the same as some meddling affair or regime change attempt, practically this guys whole raison d'être was to fund terrorists and undermining America in any way possible. People just assume its somehow the same as all the previous nonsense like killing Gaddafi or getting involved in Syria, Libya etc but its not, this guy was a legitimate threat to America.

the irony is your rhetoric justifies attacks against murica too, it's a self nullifying argument, the whole reason why preemptive attack is BS

the only real threat to muricans is having to work 2 jobs to be able to live in a van in a parking lot, while the rich takes the money out of production, into the ether world of finance, no products, no jobs, in a tax free digital flow of capital around the globe

[Potjeh]

How is Iran a threat to America? They're a regional player, they don't fund global terrorism. I mean virtually the post 9/11 terror attacks (including 9/11) were committed by Wahhabi Sunnis, who are mortal enemies with the Shia Iranians. You should be looking at Saudi Arabia instead, they're the home of Wahhabism and they're the ones funding construction and operation of Wahhabi mosques around the world. But no, somehow Saudi Arabia is such a great ally of USA, they get nuclear technology from Trump. Why's that? Because the whole war on terror spiel is a giant pile of bullshit, it was never about security and always about the petrodollar, which the Saudis are propping up and Iranians are trying to undermine on behalf of their Russian and Chinese allies. Same shit as Syria, it was all about getting a gas pipeline from Saudi Arabia through Syria to EU which would break the Russian monopoly (Russia is blackmailing Germany over gas prices basically every single winter).

[shubla]

911

How does killing maybe 1000 americans give right to kill thousands of enemy civilians and soldiers and destroy lives of tens of millions of people?

[Zentetsuken]

I love how there is a new generation of young minds right now that are questioning the fact that a nation led by a fucking monkey can decide to cowardly explode a chunk of city highway with a bunch of drone missiles and not even give a shit about who they kill in the process.

If they can send an unmanned robot halfway across the world and level a city block with a multiple missiles ...how the FUCK is this single man a threat to america?

I love how the news reports it too.



They believe maybe 7 other people died. Like they don't know who those people were and don't really give a fuck that they just sprayed a fucking highway with the guts of 7 humans, but they DID manage to execute their target. Amazing.

Zero americans can tell you what this man did. The only information anybody has is the TWITTER POSTS from their mongoloid president saying he was apparently responsible for 1000s of deaths.

It's funny because you can search for and find definitive proof of 10s, if not 100s of thousands of civilian deaths in impoverished war-torn nations like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria caused directly and undoubtedly by American army general orders and military personnel.

If we heard on the news tomorrow that an Afghanny military drone leveled a city block near some random US airport and assassinated some high level military general and a handful of totally random people that happened to be nearby because this man was responsible for killing 1000s of women and children in a middle eastern country... as an american, could you even be angry about it? I mean really? Would the rest of the world blink a fucking eye? Would it be justified?

[Burinn]

How is Iran a threat to America? They're a regional player, they don't fund global terrorism.

They finance terrorism in the Middle East, and fund numerous proxy armies that operate against the good guys™. They also overthrew the regime we coup'd into power. Obviously there's the whole if given the opportunity Iran would see Israel removed from the map over night. Irrespective of what anyone wants to think about the US-Israel relationship, it's a valuable regional ally. The history of the US-Iran conflict is a long one; reducing it to tit-for-tat logic to determine what is fair and who is escalating what is probably not a good perspective to have.

[...] it was never about security and always about the petrodollar [...]

It was never about security, but the petrodollar is a bad meme.

Trump gives less fucks but still perfectly justified in doing what he did. This isn't the same as some meddling affair or regime change attempt, practically this guys whole raison d'être was to fund terrorists and undermining America in any way possible. People just assume its somehow the same as all the previous nonsense like killing Gaddafi or getting involved in Syria, Libya etc but its not, this guy was a legitimate threat to America.

This is exactly why we have experts (who conveniently either quit or are fired in droves from the state department) who specialize in international relations and foreign policy. Incidentally the Middle East is a complicated place that is not as simple as "He's a bad guy shoot him.". You could be 100% right about everything you said about Soleimani, but that does not change the fact that escalating our conflict with Iran is categorically irrational. This action damages, somehow further, America's standing in the world. This has set back any peaceful solution to the Western world's relationship with Iran what years or decades? More people will die as a result of this assassination than could ever have been killed in acts of terror from Iran, period.




Speaking of global terrorism, how do you all feel about my President threatening the destruction of Iranian culture and heritage when the inevitable Iranian retaliation happens? The US chooses war targets strategically. Not symbolically over half a century old hostage crises in some kind of totally insane and arbitrarily vindictive fashion. /s


Apologies in advance for when we re-elect him. People just don't care.

[Jalpha]

Serving members of any military know and accept the risks of their occupation. It is not a moral issue for one military force to eliminate members of a military. Quite often militaries eliminate their own people.

Feel free to argue about whether the USA should have done this but please consider the above statement.

The threat of Iran is that they were quite blatantly refining nuclear products and showed a great deal of resistence to transparency. Even other arab nations fear what such an extremist religious state could be capable of if equipped with nuclear capabilities.

Feel free to contest any of this. After all my information is provided by western media. I have spoken with Iranians who were fearful of the regime in power in Iran though.