Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder hobos?

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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Honoka » Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:27 pm

The best survival tactic is "stick together tactic" xd I can't imagine playing hardcore pvp mmorpg with permadeath alone as hermit.
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Apocoreo » Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:31 pm

In my experience the majority of Haven players are weak. There's this sheer insanity where players won't learn how to fight players even to defend themselves and kin. This even applies to Hunter-types who know the combat system. I always tell them, if you can kill a player you can kill anything. Not exactly right stat wise but I mean the skill ceiling is surely other players. They don't even have to kill/KO people just be capable of it.

Are they all "stronger" in a monk-like sense, that if you have a tool you are likely to use it, even if you don't really want to, you will come to want to?

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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Sevenless » Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:11 pm

Honoka wrote:The best survival tactic is "stick together tactic" xd I can't imagine playing hardcore pvp mmorpg with permadeath alone as hermit.


Be completely honest with you, skilled hermits are less likely to die than faction players. It's just the term hermit is almost synonymous with beginner in this game.

If no one's specifically targetting you, you have the freedom to live away from pvp hotspots. And just don't go in dungeons. That's pretty much it.
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Dawidio123 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:32 pm

Apocoreo wrote:Are they all "stronger" in a monk-like sense, that if you have a tool you are likely to use it, even if you don't really want to, you will come to want to?

It's funny tbh. If you are incapable of fighting then you are not "good" (it's a pvp videogame hence the quotation marks) for not fighting, you are just a bitch boi. You have to be capable of doing something you consider to be "bad" to actually be "good" for not doing it.
People equate being incompetent to being "good" in this game which is cringe, most hermits would rob you bilnd and murder you if they knew they could do it with 0 risk and consequences (ie. alfrety, also vatas post the picture).
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Salad » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:42 pm

Same as it ever was.

My reason for going inactive this world will likely be the same as it's been for every other world. I got bored and life got busy. I've never been murdered by a group of hobos as far as I can remember, and most of the issues with retaining my interest is that the monotony of the game drives me insane after a bit. I enjoy going through the motions for a little while but without meaningful progress in one way or another It just starts feeling like a chore. Nowhere near ready to call it quits for this world yet since I'm with friends right now but I can see where newcomers are probably struggling to enjoy the game. It's not for everyone, and the exposure onto steam probably introduced a lot of people to Haven that were never going to enjoy Haven for more than a few days because meaningful progress takes time and effort.

TL;DR: Doubt it's just murder hobos, Game is too much for people with a low attention span, need more dopamine.
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Kaios » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:01 pm

Apocoreo wrote:In my experience the majority of Haven players are weak. There's this sheer insanity where players won't learn how to fight players even to defend themselves and kin. This even applies to Hunter-types who know the combat system. I always tell them, if you can kill a player you can kill anything. Not exactly right stat wise but I mean the skill ceiling is surely other players. They don't even have to kill/KO people just be capable of it.


Not saying you're wrong but are the mechanics really as obvious as some players claim? How obvious is it that spam clicking/clicking to move too often is less efficient than shift+clicking when chasing or attempting to escape?

For instance, new player in boat is clicking to move along a river while being chased by a more experienced and aggressive player in the same type of boat, so technically no speed difference, but somehow the aggressor catches up anyways. I know, I know, most of you would say well get out of the boat and run on land but It is in fact possible to maintain distance from the aggressor with the boat in this scenario so long as one's movement is efficient enough in that regard (limiting the number of clicks). Majority of new players aren't going to know about that though or might never realize the existence of such obscure mechanisms.

Either way, all forms of movement have that effect with clicking. If I recall correctly there is even a slight, random variation of walking/running speeds with every click made.
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Saxony4 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:11 pm

Game has always had ganking and murder hobos, nothing new under the sun.
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Honoka wrote:The best survival tactic is "stick together tactic" xd I can't imagine playing hardcore pvp mmorpg with permadeath alone as hermit.

Coward talk

Sevenless wrote:It's just the term hermit is almost synonymous with beginner in this game.

Being a villager is more akin to being a beginner, because you're having things handed to you by someone else meaning you will have less personal experience in things.
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby DDDsDD999 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:17 pm

Kaios wrote:spam clicking/clicking to move too often is less efficient than shift+clicking when chasing or attempting to escape

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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby Kaios » Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:40 pm

Which part are you refuting, the part about that not being obvious or are you saying it's the opposite and MORE clicking is equal to faster player speed? If only there were some way to communicate your point clearly.
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Re: Is the game dying already due to group/faction murder ho

Postby DDDsDD999 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:44 pm

Kaios wrote:Which part are you refuting, the part about that not being obvious or are you saying it's the opposite and MORE clicking is equal to faster player speed? If only there were some way to communicate your point clearly.

It's weird how one of those two things you said isn't in my post at all.
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