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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:15 pm

Actually Sealand sells royal titles for money, crooked if you ask me. Seriously though...
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby jordancoles » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:24 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Actually Sealand sells royal titles for money, crooked if you ask me. Seriously though...

Making royal titles accessible to the common folk is as close to equality as I can imagine

They're heroes tbh
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby shubla » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:32 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Actually Sealand sells royal titles for money, crooked if you ask me. Seriously though...

Selling titles for money is okay. Even Finland does so.
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby Glorthan » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:35 am

shubla wrote:But what do you exactly mean by all this? How is it done?
Public election where every single one from the country gets to vote over every-single-thing?
That is going to be expensive, slow, people will get bored of it.
Theres much more decisions to be made than simple laws. Budgets and such.

Believe me, that would result in chaos, especially in America where people are dumb. Your country would be destroyed within a year if people got "true democracy" to decide on every action of government by referendum.

Do you understand that "true democracy" would not work. People would get bored by these votes, ignorant people would vote stupid things. Voting group of people who full-time do these decisions does not instantly ruin everything. But then again, that does not match your definition of democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying

educate yourself. or stop trolling, if that's what you're doing.
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby shubla » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:43 pm

Glorthan wrote:
shubla wrote:But what do you exactly mean by all this? How is it done?
Public election where every single one from the country gets to vote over every-single-thing?
That is going to be expensive, slow, people will get bored of it.
Theres much more decisions to be made than simple laws. Budgets and such.

Believe me, that would result in chaos, especially in America where people are dumb. Your country would be destroyed within a year if people got "true democracy" to decide on every action of government by referendum.

Do you understand that "true democracy" would not work. People would get bored by these votes, ignorant people would vote stupid things. Voting group of people who full-time do these decisions does not instantly ruin everything. But then again, that does not match your definition of democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying

educate yourself. or stop trolling, if that's what you're doing.

Your message makes no sense. What are you trying to tell me?
I dont see how your message has anything to do with what you quoted.

Or are you trying to say that true democracy means lobbying?

I googled what is true democracy but could not find any answers.
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby shubla » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:00 pm

Potjeh wrote:Nobody is arguing for direct democracy. Just against corporate funding of election campaigns.

Then go and do something instead of writing on a random forum owned by two swedish weirdos.
Form a group, with torches. Go on barricades.

You have no right to complain whatsoever if you dont do anything to change things
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby Burinn » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:54 pm

shubla wrote:
You have no right to complain whatsoever if you dont do anything to change things


Shubla wrote:You can't complain unless you're actively doing something about it.


Oh please, what a horrible line of thought. You don't have the right to talk about something unless you're personally involved in it? Come up with a better way to whine about people disagreeing with you.
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby shubla » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:07 pm

Burinn wrote:
shubla wrote:
You have no right to complain whatsoever if you dont do anything to change things


Shubla wrote:You can't complain unless you're actively doing something about it.


Oh please, what a horrible line of thought. You don't have the right to talk about something unless you're personally involved in it? Come up with a better way to whine about people disagreeing with you.

If majority of people oppose trump
if majority of people dont like how government acts

still no one does anything?

seems fishy
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby Burinn » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:10 pm

shubla wrote:If majority of people oppose trump
if majority of people dont like how government acts

still no one does anything?

seems fishy


If it seems fishy to you that there isn't dramatic political upheaval the second >50% of the population has a problem with something I'm sorry you live in a world that makes that seem strange.



People aren't doing anything about "how the government acts" or "opposing Trump"? You're being willfully ignorant.
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Re: Would Jorbtar move to America?

Postby r21187 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:29 pm

shubla wrote:
Potjeh wrote:Nobody is arguing for direct democracy. Just against corporate funding of election campaigns.

Then go and do something instead of writing on a random forum owned by two swedish weirdos.
Form a group, with torches. Go on barricades.

You have no right to complain whatsoever if you dont do anything to change things


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