At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Kaios » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:01 pm

MightySheep wrote:How did I ignore it? I directly responded to kaois claim by saying I literally have the client in question and this bot doesnt exist.

Kaios wrote:Why do you think Nightdawg would even specify that as being one of the main reasons he made his suggestion if it were something he only believed existed?


hello? dude can't you just ask nightdawg? if you have his client then you must have some sort of contact with him.

I'm sure you are aware that an influx of new players would potentially bring more client developers too, right? It's not like the botting or alt exploitations are ever going to go away without measures in place to manage/moderate them, even in the very unlikely event that all mechanics were somehow no longer tedious and time consuming. There is an inherent advantage in utilizing multiple characters, and there is an inherent advantage in running multiple characters simultaneously.

Not sure why you're acting like no other players in the game except for you and your friends have put in genuine effort and time in learning and understanding the core mechanics of the game, got together with their fellow villagers for group sparring, dedicating time towards improving industry, or took the risks in attempting siege or pvp. There are plenty of "try-hards" in the game that simply don't care to play as efficiently as the players running or utilizing bots. Maybe ask Felix how much of the food he ate used automated labour in any of the steps in its production.
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Austinh15 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:09 pm

This is a lot of effort posting for two no names yelling in to a void.
I want you to know the "THEY HAVE BOTS THAT FUNCTION FROM COOKING THE FOOD TO WIPING MY ASS WHEN I SHIT" has become a hilarious meme so thank you. I will be using this.

Here's an idea, just play the game how you want 5-head. I think the anger you have from people being better than you because they bot stems from ego issues. Who cares if they're better? I accepted people were better than me a long time ago and its really easy to enjoy the game now. :)
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Kaios » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:12 pm

Yes, it's because there are better players. It has nothing to do with any sort of detrimental impact it may have on the game either in the short-term or the long-term.
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Austinh15 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:14 pm

Kaios wrote:Yes, it's because there are better players. It has nothing to do with any sort of detrimental impact it may have on the game either in the short-term or the long-term.


Does it really though? How does it impact a singular players experience with the game? Someone just wakes up, tends their crops, cooks food, and just generally enjoys the game.

Doesn't sound like it's ruining anyone's time.
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Kaios » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm

Okay I don't believe you are actually interested in an answer but allow me to give you an example.

Solo Hermit player finds a high quality animal node, Village A finds the same high quality animal node. Village A parks a bot that logs in at the node every 15 to 20 minutes checking for a spawn. Solo Hermit player checks the spot maybe once or twice during a few hour playtime. Will Solo Hermit player be in a good position to successfully hunt a high quality animal without someone getting to it before them, or the animal despawning if no one goes to the area after the alt logs in?
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby TheServant » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:21 pm

Kaios wrote:Okay I don't believe you are actually interested in an answer but allow me to give you an example.

Solo Hermit player finds a high quality animal node, Village A finds the same high quality animal node. Village A parks a bot that logs in at the node every 15 to 20 minutes checking for a spawn. Solo Hermit player checks the spot maybe once or twice during a few hour playtime. Will Solo Hermit player be in a good position to successfully hunt a high quality animal without someone getting to it before them, or the animal despawning if no one goes to the area after the alt logs in?


i think most likely scenario is that he will get kod and forced to move out
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby MightySheep » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:25 pm

Kaios wrote:Not sure why you're acting like no other players in the game except for you and your friends have put in genuine effort and time in learning and understanding the core mechanics of the game, got together with their fellow villagers for group sparring, dedicating time towards improving industry, or took the risks in attempting siege or pvp.

Thats the opposite of what Ive been saying. I've been saying pretty much every good player is because of their game knowledge and effort. Things like client advantages make 1% difference.
Kaios wrote:hello? dude can't you just ask nightdawg?

Im not saying its out of the question that he developed this bot. Its just not in the client and as part of nightdawgs village first 2 months in previous worlds, none of us used it. This the first ive even heard of it.

Im also not saying botting couldnt become a big issue in the future. However Right now its just not. Ive never seen any example of it being what I would consider a 'big' issue. Apart from maybe cheese bots which kicks in later in the world but thats me speaking with no experience so basically its a joojoo tier opinion
Kaios wrote:Maybe ask Felix how much of the food he ate used automated labour in any of the steps in its production.

Felix isnt that secretive about sharing his methods and satiations screenshots etc. I already know he grinds 3x as hard as I do. The dude even suicide for hunger reset which led to the the reset on death being removed. No other player tryhard to that extent. Get his scents in game you will see he is pretty much 24/7 out hunting and doing things. He apparently doesnt need to ever work.
TheServant wrote:i think most likely scenario is that he will get kod and forced to move out

ye but then i counter with pvp bots so u get KOd instead! ... nah but srsly in the realm of hypothesis why not invent a scenario where bots are running a 100 man village all autoamted and producing armies of pvp bots? Thats possible too with 100,000 lines of code surely lol. I only care about discussing reality.
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Nocturnal-Rainbows » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:26 pm

Austinh15 wrote:Does it really though? How does it impact a singular players experience with the game? Someone just wakes up, tends their crops, cooks food, and just generally enjoys the game.

Doesn't sound like it's ruining anyone's time.

It's already been explained why it's detrimental and game ruining.
Not my problem that your IQ is so low that you failed to comprehend what was clearly laid out a few posts back.

You don't see this sort of retardation in other games. Nobody defends people using aim bots in FPS games or automated bots in other games which play the game for them, that shit is shunned upon. Here though people have become so dependent on them that they genuinely have deluded themselves into thinking they're good at the game because they make liberal use of that shit, which is comedy gold.
It's literally the equivalent of me bragging to other artists that I can draw just as good as them by using an AI to generate images for me.

Anyone looking in from the outside will tell you that too. You've spent too much time in your clique discord echo chamber yesmanning each other to realize how out of touch you are.
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Austinh15 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:28 pm

TheServant wrote:
Kaios wrote:Okay I don't believe you are actually interested in an answer but allow me to give you an example.

Solo Hermit player finds a high quality animal node, Village A finds the same high quality animal node. Village A parks a bot that logs in at the node every 15 to 20 minutes checking for a spawn. Solo Hermit player checks the spot maybe once or twice during a few hour playtime. Will Solo Hermit player be in a good position to successfully hunt a high quality animal without someone getting to it before them, or the animal despawning if no one goes to the area after the alt logs in?


i think most likely scenario is that he will get kod and forced to move out


I usually don't agree with Misa but... Yeah. I've literally seen this happen w12. The hermits got together and destroyed the node (cut down all trees and planted grass was wild). But in the end they people living their got their shit kicked in.

But don't tell me they would have stood a chance if the other side didn't bot. We both know that none of those poor souls knew how to run and fight.
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Re: At the Crossroads of what is and what could be?

Postby Austinh15 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:28 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:
Austinh15 wrote:Does it really though? How does it impact a singular players experience with the game? Someone just wakes up, tends their crops, cooks food, and just generally enjoys the game.

Doesn't sound like it's ruining anyone's time.

It's already been explained why it's detrimental and game ruining.
Not my problem that your IQ is so low that you failed to comprehend what was clearly laid out a few posts back.

You don't see this sort of retardation in other games. Nobody defends people using aim bots in FPS games or automated bots in other games which play the game for them, that shit is shunned upon. Here though people have become so dependent on them that they genuinely have deluded themselves into thinking they're good at the game because they make liberal use of that shit, which is comedy gold.
It's literally the equivalent of me bragging to other artists that I can draw just as good as them by using an AI to generate images for me.

Anyone looking in from the outside will tell you that too. You've spent too much time in your clique discord echo chamber yesmanning each other to realize how out of touch you are.


Who even are you the adults are talking.
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