Would Jorbtar move to America?

[Jalpha]

Yes. Maybe the world was made with a use-by date and it's close to expiration. Who am I to argue against the nature of our environment. But I do, and I will continue to. Things could be better.

[pedorlee]

Fun fact: 150 years ago we didn't have incarcerated. Everyone was dead when convicted of a felony (yeah, a bit of an exaggeration there, but... point is)

Sad part is unemployment among those convicted is abysmal... like 60-70% depending on area (as high as 80-90% in some areas).

As far as the homeless and poor... there's some complaints, but the ones I know wouldn't leave for other countries. Then again, a high percentage of the homeless are mentally ill... to the point they need to be hospitalized or at least under monitoring for medication and such (then again, I think everyone should have the freedom to refuse treatments that are questionable or don't make you better, just... different.)

Last year I learned a lot about this exact point.
One of my costumers was a healthy and whealthy ~60 years old guy with a 15 yo daughter. One day he disapeared and never came back, this things happens.
One year after he came back completely changed dressed as a hobbo and completely disoriented. He had a divorce and he lost all, including custody. He lost his mind and he wandered everywhere homeless without a clue about what to do. My family helped him as we could, and because I know some basics about law I tried to help him leading him to a social assistant, i talked with the council and with the courts to arrange meeting with lawyers and such. We succeed on geting him a shared flat payed by the council, medics to care for him and I regularly talked with his social assistant. It was impossible, he constantly was blaming everything, even his sister help, leaving the flat and arguing with his flat mates, avoiding the court at the arranged datas or the medic ones.
It drove me mad and I started loosing my patience. The social assistance told me that this is pretty common with people in his situation, and we also proposed with the aproval of his sister to incapacitate him legaly so we could send him to a special medical center so he could get a psychologist and constant care. We couldn't because incapacitation is a very difficult goal to archieve and without his help ( he was traveling with train all the time and sleeping anywhere) it was impossible.
He keeps doing it and I can't help him anymore.

With this I want to say that homeless needs a State who take care of them and luckily the younger ones can be saved and reinsert in society. Laws are the mean and the man is the end, that is the purpose of the law in Europe at least.
In a country like USA where penal facilities or prisons are sometimes private and the State is weak in social care, where the law is the end and not the mean, where the money is freedom, someone who falls into mendicity has nearly 0 chances of salvation, and that is very sad.
In Spain the ones who defend those policies are the ones who can afford it and the ones who have economic interests in a system like that. Imo its heartless.

[shubla]

Yes. Maybe the world was made with a use-by date and it's close to expiration. Who am I to argue against the nature of our environment. But I do, and I will continue to. Things could be better.

Human species come with expiration. Not the world.

[dvsmasta]

I would just like to announce it is illegal to criticize islam in Canada. hahahah

[MagicManICT]

I would just like to announce it is illegal to criticize islam in Canada. hahahah

And this is why we have a constitutional protection for free speech. It might let every idiot with a voice be heard and others think them a savant, but it at least allows voices to be heard even if the message may be considered controversial or dangerous. What if, instead of criticizing Islam, the law was to make criticism of the State punishable? There's not much difference.

To note, many in certain offices certainly fit the description of fascism in the US, and as much as I like calling them that, they aren't fascists. One of the key tenets of fascism is the disposal of any democracy. Another is the removal of certain freedoms we hold as protected human rights in the US.

[Jacobian123]

I would also like to point out that the US is not a democracy, as much as we like to call ourselves that.

[dvsmasta]

I would also like to point out that the US is not a democracy, as much as we like to call ourselves that.

Its a representative republic. ...To the republic for which it stands....

[Jalpha]

To note, many in certain offices certainly fit the description of fascism in the US, and as much as I like calling them that, they aren't fascists. One of the key tenets of fascism is the disposal of any democracy. Another is the removal of certain freedoms we hold as protected human rights in the US.

If your whole body is immersed in water except for your head are you still wet?

[shubla]

Dumb people in USA are brainwashed to think that they are the best country, they are the country with most freedom, they are country with best and only democracy.

All of this is bullshit.
Countries like Finland actually have democracy system that works, at least a lot better than one that dumb ones use.
We also have way more freedom to do things instead of you. But we dont even think about things like "freedom". People take things for granted.

[Hourai_Chimes]

Dumb people in USA

Americans are dumb

If you do not agree with me, you are a dumb American.

everything that comes out of shubla only leads to the above, nothing to see here

also for the subject, i'd say no even if he did not pop up and say he won't, especially when president narcissist is sitting his fatass and trying to make imaginary walls