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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby VDZ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:02 pm

mvgulik wrote:Don't you love the (kinda predictable as usual) shit dictators can come up with to try to sound less dictatorial/criminal.

"new democratic world order"

Yea right.
Needles to say the second word can be replaced with whatever other state-form that might sound nice to hide the real state-form they have in mind.

Don't you love how yellow journalism and social media twist things into practically complete falsehoods to cause more outrage?

The proper quote is:
Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov wrote:The world is living through a very serious stage in the history of international relations. We, together with you, and with our sympathizers will move towards a multipolar, just, democratic world order.

Note how he never mentioned a new world order. Russia is just claiming to want democracy and justice in international relations.
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Postby mvgulik » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:07 pm

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Zentetsuken » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:26 pm

mvgulik wrote:I doubt the media in general twist things intentionally. Its probably more like with that telephone game.
Human language is not like some program-code, and its always susceptible to different interpretations.

One interpretation than is: That Putin that likes to team up with China (which was already known), and potential other autocratic countries/leaders. And proposes to setup there own world economical group where the decision power in the group is share evenly(ie: the democratic part).

Still sounds totally absurd. ... Autocrats/dictators are not known for there cooperational skills.


>"Russia is just claiming to want democracy and justice in international relations."
Who would not want that for themself.


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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby MadNomad » Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:27 am

meanwhile 10 Hearthlings from Ukraine are playing hnh
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Burinn » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:50 am

shubla wrote:Will Ukraine be conquered before w14?



No it will not!
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Burinn » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:51 am

shubla wrote:Prayers from Finland!


slava ukraini
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Fostik » Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:54 am

For anyone who had doubts about sides and their personal position - google Bucha.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby jordancoles » Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:22 am

Fostik wrote:For anyone who had doubts about sides and their personal position - google Bucha.

Just did. Some of the pictures coming out of there are so fucked up I can't imagine what it must have been like. I wish there was more that could be done. Part of me wants to say fuck it and to get NATO involved fully, but it seems pretty obvious that it would just make things 100x's worse globally. There is no good end to this and the path to the end is just as awful. Humans are the worst.

How are you and your girlfriend doing? Have you left Ukraine ?
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Fostik » Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:57 am

jordancoles wrote:How are you and your girlfriend doing? Have you left Ukraine ?


Nope, still there - we're based in Lviv, it's relatively safe, only few Kalibr missiles hit the city, though there is air strike alarms every day, but as far as I understood winged missiles is easy target for military of Ukraine already.
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