INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby venatorvenator » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:02 am

Why does everyone ignore the Eastern Asian and Hispanic playerbases?
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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby LadyGoo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:04 am

Potjeh wrote:What representatives of Russian community would you want in IP, though? While Russians are numerous in the game, you don't see nearly as many on the forums, and from those that are here even fewer are active and constructive regulars in C&I. What's Jorb supposed to do, enforce national quotas regardless of availability of candidates?
It is less about nationality and more about diversity. Most of you did not participate mass pvp/sieging of big cities and etc. So I do not see how IP could contribute into something pvp related, since most of them just sit behind their walls and farm carrots, including JC (poor raid organizer in general) and Nao (losing to NB and even to Oddies).
This does not stop burgi using his IP membership as an argument of his opponent's words carrying low value.

As for ctivity in C&I, how can you feel a motivation to write anything when someone like burgi says "oh, it is so good the j&lo got the IP, so they do not have to listen to your nonsense opinion".
In my point of view there should be no IP.
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Re: New Brodgar - War of Newb Defense

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:08 am

TeckXKnight wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:
Jorb invited some russian players like koya
I know only 2 russian players who were invited. Koya, who is not playing and has been invited years and years ago. And K-T, who is also burgi's villager. Nice representation of Russian community in the inner party.

Keyn was my neighbor and friend in world 3 and 4, though I don't think I managed to find him in world 5 and beyond. I didn't know he had joined up with Pande. I hope he's doing well. =)


Note that there is Keyn Thror and Ken Tower whom have the same intials but different individuals. So Keyn didn't join Pandemonium (that's Ken Tower).

Sevenless wrote:For a thread about the inner party, this is surprisingly about past grudges and wars and has almost nothing to do with the IP specifically.

For a second there I thought this was a moot post.


Not sure if this is correct but it seems Lady Goo dislikes (not sure by how much degree) the IP.

Here is something that bothers me for a while: The term jorb anal friend which implies that you do not like jorb (or loftar?) in the first place because that would have to imply negative connotation to the develops in the first place due to being a part insult to them as well.
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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby TeckXKnight » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:08 am

venatorvenator wrote:Why does everyone ignore the Eastern Asian and Hispanic playerbases?

It breaks down to visibility on the main forums. Of the current 19 active members of the inner party, all have been or are major posters with a long history of constructive input, whether it be positive or negative. For Hispanic players no one comes to mind for me. For SEA players we have Asians in the IP but no one currently living in an Asian country. There have been petitions for Tonky to get a seat to no avail.
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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby venatorvenator » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:26 am

TeckXKnight wrote:
venatorvenator wrote:Why does everyone ignore the Eastern Asian and Hispanic playerbases?

It breaks down to visibility on the main forums. Of the current 19 active members of the inner party, all have been or are major posters with a long history of constructive input, whether it be positive or negative. For Hispanic players no one comes to mind for me. For SEA players we have Asians in the IP but no one currently living in an Asian country. There have been petitions for Tonky to get a seat to no avail.

There should be examinations for in-game knowledge, game dev knowledge, programming, community management, assholeness level, and faction affiliation :D

On a serious note, though, the forum is in English and that limits the amount of input major national groups can give, and thus also their visibility.

And on an even more serious note, there are only two devs for a game of this magnitude. The IP seems to function like an extended unpaid dev team, and I can't imagine how the game would be possible without it, be the players in it right or wrong.
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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby TeckXKnight » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:42 am

Language barriers are always an issue and, unfortunately, there is no magic way to overcome them. =(
Those with the best ability to communicate and to communicate thoughtful and meaningful critiques will be the most likely to be seen.
As for there being an exam -- there already is one. The general forums are a sort of constant exam to see who qualifies. =)
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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby Archiplex » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:54 am

I think rather than a single inner party, whenever a certain issue is being brought up (Anything specifically about combat, or sieging, or big party mechanics, or hermiting, etc) there should be people who represent each 'group' who, as Tech said, can communicate (english) well, and when they do it are thoughtful and give good critique.

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Re: INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

Postby maze » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:56 am

This is my last post...until i come up with something for my storys (999pc)

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Re: New Brodgar - War of Newb Defense

Postby marvi » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:41 am

TeckXKnight wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:I know only 2 russian players who were invited. Koya, who is not playing and has been invited years and years ago. And K-T, who is also burgi's villager. Nice representation of Russian community in the inner party.

Keyn was my neighbor and friend in world 3 and 4, though I don't think I managed to find him in world 5 and beyond. I didn't know he had joined up with Pande. I hope he's doing well. =)


As Patch wrote before, LadyGoo mixed me (k-t) with Keyn Thror who was accepted to the inner party but never played with Pande.
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Re: New Brodgar - War of Newb Defense

Postby DPblH » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:00 am

Avu wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:
ChildhoodObesity wrote:IP sounds like a load of ppl who dont play the game tbh
Or live within the same "peaceful, tiny, quiet, botting-free" village.


I know I'm just shooting myself in the foot here since you will never believe a word I'm saying by virtue of your made up opinion and conspiracy theories but here goes.

Ip has indeed a lot of players from one village but not all. Jorb invited some russian players like koya but they chose like you to believe in magical jorb intervention and crap like that (which all stems from one fucking cliff jorb removed early world 3 so we could have a perfect square larp town). They also used ip like their tool for gathering information about their believed enemies rather than you know make suggestions to improve the game. They did not report bugs for fear probably we would use them against them or god knows why when we know for a fact that would get anyone nuked but hey whatever. So they got removed.

As for peaceful. Yep we fucking are peaceful. It can't get more fucking peaceful than this. As for others in ip like goons can't say what they're up to they keep very low profile, probably getting ready to wipe all opposition soon or stuff, and ainran people you know what they've been up to. And yeah you probably believe we're same shit as ainran because for a short period in world 5 while I was not playing they were pretty much hired as mercenaries to defend against NNN and their predatory tactics. This world 0 interaction with them and hopefully it stays that way.

Tiny? Never claimed that one.

Quiet? I've tried I really have. I just don't want to get involved in all the drama. I just want to do my carrots eat my cheese and larp away without any pvp hopefully until the end of the world. I hate pvp I always had. Doesn't mean I don't do it if I have to but I still hate it.

As for botting free. We are not botting. I don't know of ANYONE in the entire village who has been botting this entire world*. We do flax parrties (well did) and if certain neighbors come looking we pretend to be bots to make them mad. But no damn bots. I wish we had some but our client maker refuses to implement them. So no bots.

*Darki has a music bot. It plays songs for him. You caught us.

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