Are we going to get a World expansion?

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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:08 pm

Garfy wrote:
Enjoyment wrote:ok, palisades...I see you love it, but why should I? in w8 i had an alternative - build a fort or hide somewhere far away. So why should I use YOUR way to play?


So find an inconspicuous cave and hide in it?

If you're not going to put in the effort to defend yourself, you have no right to complain that the world is too dangerous. The tools exist, if you don't use them you should entirely expect to be raided or killed.


you're not the smartest one, are you?..
i don't need YOUR suggestion how to survive - i'm dealin fine with it by myself. But why should I do it only in one way? I don't think it is right to force players to deals with each other, if i don't want? Im generally dont like people - thats why i play online game rather to go somewhere IRL, and i dont think that devs should deprive this option for people like me...
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Zeler » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:10 pm

Enjoyment wrote:
Garfy wrote:
Enjoyment wrote:ok, palisades...I see you love it, but why should I? in w8 i had an alternative - build a fort or hide somewhere far away. So why should I use YOUR way to play?


So find an inconspicuous cave and hide in it?

If you're not going to put in the effort to defend yourself, you have no right to complain that the world is too dangerous. The tools exist, if you don't use them you should entirely expect to be raided or killed.


you're not the smartest one, are you?..
i don't need YOUR suggestion how to survive - i'm dealin fine with it by myself. But why should I do it only in one way? I don't think it is right to force players to deals with each other, if i don't want? Im generally dont like people - thats why i play online game rather to go somewhere IRL, and i dont think that devs should deprive this option for people like me...


Then maybe play single-player games.
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:11 pm

[quote="Tamalak"Because this is an MMO. If nobody can find you and you have no effect on others' experiences, you're not contributing to the richness of the game.

That isn't to say that you shouldn't play the way you want - but the devs have no reason to incentivize a playstyle that makes the game boring for others.[/quote]

So if you cant find me, the game is boring for you? Just boring?.. Ok. But I think when you can find me - than game will become unenjoying for me - cause you're the one who like to f**k someone's work...

And why the devs have to support you, not me?
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:14 pm

Zeler wrote:Then maybe play single-player games.


Could you suggest even 1 game like H&H offline?..
But, seriuosly, I don't mind to meet some people in the outer world. But I dont want to meet a tons of them on my backyard every day.
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Tamalak » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:18 pm

Enjoyment wrote:
So if you cant find me, the game is boring for you? Just boring?.. Ok. But I think when you can find me - than game will become unenjoying for me - cause you're the one who like to f**k someone's work...


Um, no. I'm not.

If I find you and we cooperate, you're contributing to my experiences in the game.
If I find you and you're hoarding a resource I want and I have to negotiate, you're contributing to my experiences in the game.
If I find you and I'm scared off, you're still contributing.
If I find you and you attack me, you're still contributing.
If I find the ruins of your once-village, you're still contributing.

If I never find you or anything you do, you're not contributing.
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:26 pm

Tamalak wrote:
Um, no. I'm not.

If I find you and we cooperate, you're contributing to my experiences in the game.
If I find you and you're hoarding a resource I want and I have to negotiate, you're contributing to my experiences in the game.
If I find you and I'm scared off, you're still contributing.
If I find you and you attack me, you're still contributing.
If I find the ruins of your once-village, you're still contributing.

If I never find you or anything you do, you're not contributing.


Ok. This is all about YOUR experiences. And what about mine?

If you find my place and stole all my stuff (dried hides, mined ores, www's etc.) - I'll loose my experineces in the game.
If you find my place and destroy my work - I'll loose my time..
If you find my and kill me - i'll loose everything..

So again, why should I state for your preferences, not mine?

And I doesn't vote for an opinion to make it impossible for you to find me - I just saying that it maybe be a good Idea to expand the world, so I won't see 50 hearthling every evening I play on my backyard... If I want to interact with the world - I will travell for an hour or two (a had many friendly neighbourghs in w8), but I want stupid children have to spend some time to find me too...
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Tamalak » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:32 pm

Enjoyment wrote:
Ok. This is all about YOUR experiences. And what about mine?

If you find my place and stole all my stuff (dried hides, mined ores, www's etc.) - I'll loose my experineces in the game.
If you find my place and destroy my work - I'll loose my time..
If you find my and kill me - i'll loose everything..

So again, why should I state for your preferences, not mine?


You shouldn't. Go ahead and try to hide. But the devs have no reason to assist you, is what I'm saying. Because a game with all hermits is not an MMO.
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Enjoyment » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:38 pm

Tamalak wrote:
Enjoyment wrote:
Ok. This is all about YOUR experiences. And what about mine?

If you find my place and stole all my stuff (dried hides, mined ores, www's etc.) - I'll loose my experineces in the game.
If you find my place and destroy my work - I'll loose my time..
If you find my and kill me - i'll loose everything..

So again, why should I state for your preferences, not mine?


You shouldn't. Go ahead and try to hide. But the devs have no reason to assist you, is what I'm saying. Because a game with all hermits is not an MMO.

Are you a dev? Why are you keep saying of their reasons? And I think that the only reason for devs is their profit, so my money could be a pretty neat reason.
And why devs should have reason for supporting assholes? If the PVP will be aviable only for subscribers - will the world still be overpopulated with jerk, who think "Killing others is fun"? Cause I deeply doubnt that most of griefers and douchebags is able to pay adult people...
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby Garfy » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:42 pm

Enjoyment wrote:you're not the smartest one, are you?..
i don't need YOUR suggestion how to survive - i'm dealin fine with it by myself. But why should I do it only in one way? I don't think it is right to force players to deals with each other, if i don't want? Im generally dont like people - thats why i play online game rather to go somewhere IRL, and i dont think that devs should deprive this option for people like me...


So what happens when someone comes along and kills you and steals all your stuff because you didn't bother to protect it? Are you going to demand the developers change the game because this isn't how you want to play?

The game allows other players to steal from you and kill you at anytime they want, that is how the game works. If you don't take steps to prevent this, you're asking for it. You cannot demand the developers keep changing the game to suit your personal play style.
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Re: Are we going to get a World expansion?

Postby banok » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:46 pm

No. The population will only shrink.

Yes I agree its pretty crazy now, I;ve been chased multiple times, everywhere is populated. My neighbours and fresh scouting alts have been slain, and bodies carried all the way back (lol ozzy). My base got raided, I lost lot of stuff. Here is me eating rats with wooden symbel in my hermitage after polska took all my sausages and fine dinnerware:

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All this makes the game more interesting. It is a survival game, not a huge empty wilderness with 0 risk.
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