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[jordancoles]

The medical model and the bio-psycho-social model are fairly different and so we're taught things differently in school, which might be why there isn't as much collaboration as there maybe should be

The medical model goes a little something like:
>something is broken
>find a way to fix that part
>part is fixed
>problem solved

Mental health considers genetics and family history, social influences and upbringing along with mental state and well-being to make a whole, and then the parts of that whole are looked at or worked on to try and improve the person overall.
It's definitely less scientific when you're talking about counseling... I've found that behavioural interventions are more structured though

[Jalpha]

That's been my experience also. Behavioural psychology is much more scientific than say clinical psychology.

[ven]

You might be confusing psychopaths with sociopaths. What I've learned is that sociopaths have a more difficult time being functional, if not mentally or emotionally, at least socially, and that the opposite is true for psychopaths - they adjust perfectly and are often role models for success etc. But psychology is a mess and I don't know what people read in other parts of the world.

[jordancoles]

Dang, this thread is actually pretty decent

[Ysh]

Dang, this thread is actually pretty decent

I almost feel offended that you will be surprised that a Ysh thread is decent. I like to thinking all of my threads are at least decent!

[Jalpha]

You might be confusing psychopaths with sociopaths.

There is little difference between the two. Psychopath is just a sociopath at a higher end of the scale. But then I see everything as on a scale, I don't believe black and white definitions are realistic or accurate in the real world.

[GenghisKhan44]

Dang, this thread is actually pretty decent

I almost feel offended that you will be surprised that a Ysh thread is decent. I like to thinking all of my threads are at least decent!

It's not that; it's just the amount of general shitposting that usually goes on.

But I'm not going to begin ruining this thread now. I will add that I do actually have ADHD, and that the collaboration between my psychologist and my physician led me to begin taking a stimulant, which has improved my focus and attention somewhat. Even parasciences such as psychology do sometimes need quantitative reasoning.

Not to discount neuroscience - both are incredible, powerful, and useful - but I do think psychology is more holistic. While the brain itself can malfunction, learning what to do with yourself when strictly neurological concerns have been dealt with, at least in my experience, is infinitely valuable. Coles is right; self-examining and coping skills do need to be taught to people when they're capable of learning them.

[ven]

You might be confusing psychopaths with sociopaths.

There is little difference between the two. Psychopath is just a sociopath at a higher end of the scale. But then I see everything as on a scale, I don't believe black and white definitions are realistic or accurate in the real world.

Not really. For example, psychopaths are immune to stress according to the DSM V, while sociopaths can become agitated and tend to have emotional outbursts. I've also read somewhere that psychopathy tends to be genetic, while sociopathy seems to be more associated with education and post-birth developmental stuff. I'm sure there are other distinctions but to be honest I don't know this very well.
Then again, as I said, psychology is a mess and many concepts aren't well defined or don't find consensus in the community, and that's particularly true for those that are commonly used in movies and the media.

[Jalpha]

That's interesting. I've always held the belief that the human mind is a clear template ready to receive programming from several sources at birth. Cultural and social influences seem to me the greatest contribution to who most of us become. I had read psychopaths were largely that way genetically, however there was some debate that they be divided into type 1 and type 2 psychopaths. Those who were born that way, and others who became that way due to environmental factors (yet who likely had some genetic predisposition).

I can concede that it's possible that genetics plays an important role but I can't say how important. I'm a strong proponent of neuroplasticity and epigenetics.

Coles is right; self-examining and coping skills do need to be taught to people when they're capable of learning them.

He is, but a lot of the groundwork for behavioural re-programming is shared with neuroscience.

[jordancoles]

The first 5 years of life set the foundations for a lot of things

During the first 5 years your brain is much more receptive to learning new things and taking in information, which is why you can find 3 year olds who speak several languages
If your first 5 years are traumatic or unfulfilled you can see all kinds of weird things popping up later in life

It's not always the case, but not many people can argue that the early years are not very important for shaping who you are or how you respond, and that the things learned during that time can be very hard to change later on