Internet Psychological Question.

[Jalpha]

Just to add to my earlier point... There are a lot of confoundingly retarded people in life living normal happy lives and honestly largely shitting life up for everyone else, because their parents taught them how to thrive (for good or for worse). Some kids just have a home life or life in general which is beyond their own ability to puzzle a way out of. For most of their life at least, and some never do. Life isn't fair, I get it.

Internet bullying though is something I don't understand, I've never experienced it. There was no such thing in my generation. If the only social outlet somebody has is an online group, and that group turns or is turned against them, then I can draw comparisons with real-life bullying.

Just remember kids, bullies are victims too.

[Ysh]

Internet bullying though is something I don't understand, I've never experienced it.

You do not experience this because it does not exist.

If the only social outlet somebody has is an online group, and that group turns or is turned against them, then I can draw comparisons with real-life bullying.

Real life bully requires to hurt the man. Big kid takes the small kid money for lunch eatings. If you are disliked for being insufferable prick child, you are not being bullied. Nobody is owed being liked or included. Act less shit or stop deriving value through other people.

[LadyV]

Internet bullying though is something I don't understand, I've never experienced it.

You do not experience this because it does not exist.

If the only social outlet somebody has is an online group, and that group turns or is turned against them, then I can draw comparisons with real-life bullying.

Real life bully requires to hurt the man. Big kid takes the small kid money for lunch eatings. If you are disliked for being insufferable prick child, you are not being bullied. Nobody is owed being liked or included. Act less shit or stop deriving value through other people.

Denying another's perspective of whats pain... You just defeated your own argument.

[Ysh]

Internet bullying though is something I don't understand, I've never experienced it.

You do not experience this because it does not exist.

If the only social outlet somebody has is an online group, and that group turns or is turned against them, then I can draw comparisons with real-life bullying.

Real life bully requires to hurt the man. Big kid takes the small kid money for lunch eatings. If you are disliked for being insufferable prick child, you are not being bullied. Nobody is owed being liked or included. Act less shit or stop deriving value through other people.

Denying another's perspective of whats pain... You just defeated your own argument.

What?

[MagicManICT]

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I quite agree. I'm not going to say everyone had issues when they were a kid, but I think it's safe to say most have. I don't have statistics available and not going to bother looking for some exact number for people to squabble over. It's easy to just get away from the crap. Just close off your social media to anyone but actual friends. If your friends are treating you this way, find some new friends. In my day, you had to actually walk away, and that's a hell of a lot harder, that or lay someone out... then that has its problems, too. Suspension from school sucks when you're a straight-A honors student. (No, wasn't ever a straight-A student... everyone just thought I was.)

You do not experience this because it does not exist.

Oh, it exists. Denying it doesn't is just sticking your head up your ass and ignoring the world. (Harsh, but...) As I said in the statement above, though, it's relatively easy to avoid.

Real life bully requires to hurt the man. Big kid takes the small kid money for lunch eatings. If you are disliked for being insufferable prick child, you are not being bullied. Nobody is owed being liked or included. Act less shit or stop deriving value through other people.

Bullying is about power... taking it by force. Hurt is just a consequence of gaining power. Maybe the guy/gal feels powerless for some reason, maybe this is the only form of social interaction they know.

To note, our personal value really only exists based on other people's informed opinions, otherwise we're just hermits living on the mountain top. We live in a social world where logic rarely operates the train of thought. If a person sees the uninformed opinions, ie those of the bully, as their value, then the result will be depression and anxiety before long because those aren't rational opinions. If we choose to ignore such things in our self-evaluation, then we are stronger for it. Do the words sting? Hell yes they do, just as bad as getting punched in the gut sometimes, but we apply strength of will and logic to such things and file it away where it belongs.

Oh, and FYI, a child doesn't know if it's bad or good, but they'll often know if it doesn't feel right. After all, medicine sucks and often feels bad, but it is good for you in the long term. If you acclimatize a child to verbal and/or physical abuse, then it's the only thing they understand and will interact with others in such a way.

[Amanda44]

To note, our personal value really only exists based on other people's informed opinions, otherwise we're just hermits living on the mountain top. We live in a social world where logic rarely operates the train of thought. If a person sees the uninformed opinions, ie those of the bully, as their value, then the result will be depression and anxiety before long because those aren't rational opinions. If we choose to ignore such things in our self-evaluation, then we are stronger for it. Do the words sting? Hell yes they do, just as bad as getting punched in the gut sometimes, but we apply strength of will and logic to such things and file it away where it belongs.

Oh, and FYI, a child doesn't know if it's bad or good, but they'll often know if it doesn't feel right. After all, medicine sucks and often feels bad, but it is good for you in the long term. If you acclimatize a child to verbal and/or physical abuse, then it's the only thing they understand and will interact with others in such a way.

Well said.


@ Borka ... like you I find personally that the anonymity of the internet doesn't seem to affect how I behave or conduct myself ... though in all honesty there are times I sometimes wish it did ...

[Jalpha]

I'm not convinced kids become insufferable little shits of their own accord. In any case I believe bullying an indicator of underlying issues on account of both parties involved.

Will our species ever attain enlightenment and be allowed to join council with the other sentient species in the galaxy? I often doubt it.

[MagicManICT]

Will our species ever attain enlightenment and be allowed to join council with the other sentient species in the galaxy? I often doubt it.

That's coming from an assumption that other sentient species hold council and aren't in a long term war or other state of interstellar unrest even if not a full on war. This is assuming, of course, that the odds of sentient life capable of space flight in a galaxy is higher than one per.

[Granger]

Question then is if there is a possibility for interstellar space flight that is feasible time-wise.

[Jalpha]

Assuming it is possible for sentience to arise more than once per galaxy then if warlike species were the first to attain spaceflight it is likely we would already have encountered them by now. Also assuming FTL is possible.

So the first spacefaring species is likely not to be warlike and is likely to hinder the attempts of any warlike species trying to attain FTL, FTL is not possible, or sentience and survival to the point of discovering FTL is only possible once per galaxy if that.

I do find it hard to believe that sentience and intelligence is rare, but I do believe it possible survival till FTL discovery is. On our planet alone the octopus was likely a very near miss in terms of attaining sentience and intelligence, and if the species outlasts our own it may yet get there. Then there's dolphins, doomed to a life in the sea due to their lack of limbs and digits or any meaningful method of manipulating objects.

FTL is very much possible theoretically, albeit the side effects of using it (a huge blast of radiation at the exit point large enough to sterilize clusters of solar systems) and the method of powering it propose additional engineering difficulties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

Slower than light speed travel is very feasible, and it is highly likely that a sufficiently advanced species would have access to a lifespan, or methods of circumventing their lifespan, to survive the timescale involved. This is scary though because it means warlike species may be spacefaring, if they exist at all.

My thoughts on the matter anyway.