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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby Jacobian123 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:19 am

Cigarette smoke smells like burning horse hoof.
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby DisKagel » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:35 am

Jacobian123 wrote:Cigarette smoke smells like burning horse hoof.
that is a very interesting way to describe the smell of a cigarette
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby Salad » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:39 am

Jacobian123 wrote:Cigarette smoke smells like burning horse hoof.


well that's interesting. I'd compare it more to stale coffee beans mashed up and rolled into a paper with various bitter plants.

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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:42 pm

Onep wrote:Hah, look at all these degenerates talking about vaping and their disgusting chemical addictions.


Better living through chemistry. 'Nuff said. 8-)

I'll note for those of you using nicotine, it's still the primary carcinogen from tobacco. Don't think because you're not smoking the plant your safe from the various cancers it causes. There's also a ton of studies being done on the different flavoring additives. At least one has been pulled because it was found out it was the same thing as causing rapid onset lung cancer (bubble lung I believe it's known as) in factory workers producing artificial butter flavor.
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby Salad » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:38 pm

MagicManICT wrote:artificial butter flavor.

MagicManICT wrote: artificial

MagicManICT wrote: butter


Who the hell would vape that? I feel sick thinking about it, next thing you know they'll have mayo flavored vape liquid
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:52 pm

There's a chemical used, and I forget the name of it because, hell, it's a chemical name. Only chemistry nerds remember that stuff. Anyway, same chemical is used in the manufacturing of some of the e-cig flavorings.

I dug it up. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=artificial+butter+ ... es+disease

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A 2014 publication found that diacetyl was present in samples of many sweet-flavored electronic cigarette liquids, though at levels 100 times lower than that of tobacco smoke. According to that research, diacetyl is approved for food use, but is associated with respiratory disease when inhaled. The study concluded that diacetyl is an avoidable risk for electronic cigarette liquid, and measures could be taken by the industry to eliminate its usage, without limiting availability of flavors. In 2015, another test of 51 purpose-selected liquids found diacetyl at trace levels or higher in 39 of the liquids.


edit and note: my step-daughter's boyfriend's parents run a vape shop in my city. It's how they quit smoking and wanted to help others get off cigarettes. You can find vape and e-cig products without these chemicals that are found to be toxic.
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby Jacobian123 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:35 pm

DisKagel wrote:
Jacobian123 wrote:Cigarette smoke smells like burning horse hoof.
that is a very interesting way to describe the smell of a cigarette

Like when a farrier burns a red-hot horseshoe onto the hoof, that kind of smoke. It's grose.

That being said, vape smoke is slightly more tolerable, but only just. It just smells like chemicals and shit that makes my nose wrinkle.
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby DisKagel » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:55 am

Jacobian123 wrote:Like when a farrier burns a red-hot horseshoe onto the hoof, that kind of smoke. It's grose.

Ah, I am not quite familiar with that scent myself. I do agree though that smoke of a cigarette does smell quite awful.
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby Peonaz3 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:55 am

MagicManICT wrote:
Onep wrote:Hah, look at all these degenerates talking about vaping and their disgusting chemical addictions.


Better living through chemistry. 'Nuff said. 8-)

I'll note for those of you using nicotine, it's still the primary carcinogen from tobacco. Don't think because you're not smoking the plant your safe from the various cancers it causes. There's also a ton of studies being done on the different flavoring additives. At least one has been pulled because it was found out it was the same thing as causing rapid onset lung cancer (bubble lung I believe it's known as) in factory workers producing artificial butter flavor.


Nicotine alone is not carcinogenic. Neither addictive either.
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Re: Haven & Vape

Postby Granger » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:28 am

Peonaz3 wrote:Nicotine alone is not carcinogenic. Neither addictive either.


But it is a toxin, so I wouldn't say it's healthy.
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