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Re: Looking for trashy GPU but less trashy than mine

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:29 pm

Atamzsiktrop wrote:R7's are also DX12 compatible so in future (like, 1 year?) you should hopefully see another perfomance jump from that.


Hopefully it won't be another year. It was supposed to be out q3 this year, but... /shrug

Will mention all the R7 and newer AMD cards support Mantle, which is (should be) a significant performance increase when compared to DX 11, but early testing against DX12 shows it may not be much, if any, improvement over Microsoft. However, there are already a few games out that support Mantle, and DX 12 is, still, waiting to come out.

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Ok, now the real question is whether r7 will make any difference over insert_mysterious_golden_mean_GPU, because CPU will surely bottleneck there.
I know I am kind of making circles here, but I don't wanna overpay D: .


As far as your CPU/Motherboard goes, memory speeds are going to be a bigger factor. If memory serves me correctly (can't be bothered to dig it up), bus speeds should be just fine for you. Newer and faster would be better, but you're likely talking 50-100 as you'll need to replace motherboard, RAM, and CPU.

While the newer CPUs have some newer tech in them, they don't run significantly faster with the exception of the bus speeds. If you want a CPU that runs that much faster, you really end up paying for it, even with used CPUs.

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:i hear that's borderline dangerous because 20% of advertised power on PSU does not exist.

Basically, yeah. The rating is given based on the amperage draw from the power line. As the PSU pushes more amps out, it heats, and there's falloff in how much power output you get the hotter it is. The falloff can be a lot more than 20%, too. All the high end rigs come with oversized power supplies to A) run cooler and B) compensate for this loss of power. As I posted earlier, you should be able to find a 400W PSU for really cheap if you ask around locally. I strongly suggest this.

Of those three cards you listed, I'd look at a site like tomshardware for comprehensive performance charts. If the price is about the same, I'd go with the R7. As has been said, it's forward compatible, so even if you can't upgrade the CPU soon, you may still be able to get some life out your system for another year or so without needing to replace the GPU at the same time*. (I can tell you the R7 will outperform the HD 6570.) The 610 should be ok without replacing the PSU.

*I kept a system going for 8 years with piecemeal upgrades like this. It was cheaper over time, but there came a point when it was just better performance and not much more to start from scratch.
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Re: Looking for trashy GPU but less trashy than mine

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:31 am

All PSUs I've got for turbocheap are syrian bomber Akygas.
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However I think there should be one Asus going for sale, are those PSUs legit, or yet another chinese exploding deathtrap?

Also there should be HD Radeons much better than the r7 and GTS 450 is actually better than r7 in passmark.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/x4zgd%20...%20r/GPU+.ods
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Re: Looking for trashy GPU but less trashy than mine

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:14 pm

Pretty much anything from ASUS is a solid product, IMO. the motherboards are the best in the business overall, though you might find better in certain categories. They've been in business for 20+ years (almost 30 now) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus.

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Also there should be HD Radeons much better than the r7 and GTS 450 is actually better than r7 in passmark.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/x4zgd ... r/GPU+.ods

Doesn't really surprise me. The performance difference is marginal. I can pull up multiple test ratings, and they're all about equal, and one or the other is ahead depending on the testing platform. As much as people to this day say that it doesn't matter, games and drivers can be optimized for one platform and won't run as well on the other. The performance difference is usually marginal (a few fps at most), but when poorly done it makes the other unusable.
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Re: Looking for trashy GPU but less trashy than mine

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:34 pm

Ok sorry, that I removed it, I was thinking I was getting bothersome :P. Will readd it, just tell me on PM when I'm getting obnoxious or smth.
So I think that about sums it up. I should get the cheapest of these card, and buy myself a PSU.
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