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Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:37 pm

Lol, I hear that if you sink your PC in certain industrial oil, you can OC everything to the max.
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby shubla » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:09 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Lol, I hear that if you sink your PC in certain industrial oil, you can OC everything to the max.

You can sink your pc in certain oils. but not overclock everything to the max.
https://youtu.be/LVBZUcxvrys
With something really cold such as dry ice you can try to cool down your CPU to achieve pretty high speeds. But cooling your computer with dry ice is work intensive and expensive.

Maybe if that oil would be cooled by something. I think it has something to do with how heat conducts and so on. But if that oil would be "frozen" it might lose heat conductivity. Im not really sure.

I guess something like liquid helium would work better. But helium is expensive and might be even too cold?
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby loftar » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:07 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Lol, I hear that if you sink your PC in certain industrial oil, you can OC everything to the max.

I suspect that the thing about oil cooling, if anything, is that it might allow you to make your computer entirely silent in case the oil's capacity to remove heat by convection is enough by itself to cool it. More likely, it's just that it looks a bit cool.
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:40 pm

There are a couple of different oils. I've even seen just plain old cooking oil used. The PC motherboard and components were sealed with some sort of spray and then completely immersed in a clear plastic tank. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/str ... ,1203.html

@shubla: yeah, I've seen those kinds of setups.

Also, liquid nitrogen is more common and cheaper, and not as cold. Downside to any liquid gas setups is you will need to vent to outside the building for any evacuating gas that boils off. (Well, not so much for LOX, but then you have that huge fire risk.)
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:43 pm

Guys what's your opinion of http://www.logicalincrements.com?
They say I need at least GTX 1070 build to run Witcher 3 at high 30-45s, but on the other site it says it would get me as much as 65 FPS. They use an i7 to test their cards, but it shouldn't boost the performance, just guarantee unbiased no-bottleneck test, right?
Could be nvidia hairworks though.
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby Glorthan » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:52 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Guys what's your opinion of http://www.logicalincrements.com?
They say I need at least GTX 1070 build to run Witcher 3 at high 30-45s, but on the other site it says it would get me as much as 65 FPS. They use an i7 to test their cards, but it shouldn't boost the performance, just guarantee unbiased no-bottleneck test, right?

If you're cpu-bound in a game, chances are it's very lightly threaded and only an overclock will help you, not the HT on an i7.

Who cares about the exact figures? It will vary from scene to scene, and if you are disliking the fps you are getting, drop unimportant greedy settings like MSAA (force FXAA through systemwide gfx settings if unavailable ingame), SSAO, etc. that barely impact visuals and cripple performance. If you care "so much" about not dropping below 60 frames then you'd likely benefit from a 120hz monitor, as tearing is fucking annoying, and 70 fps (as an example) on one of those monitors looks nice, unlike a 60 hz (and even with laggy vsync I get tearing wtf????)
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby shubla » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:04 pm

Just get i5 gtx 1070 if you cant afford better.
If you have lot of money. Then buy 1080, if you still have lot of money so spend, buy second 1080. After that maybe i7
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:07 pm

Nah actually I don't have a lot of money, and all I want is to get 45 FPS at very high or ultra (depending on how much actual difference is in particular game) for the minimum price.
And I'm probably going to sell my card and buy one from 11 series or some AMD Vega card later to save a couple hundreds PLN. The cheaper cards seem to lose their % value much slower than the high end cards.
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby shubla » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:11 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Nah actually I don't have a lot of money, and all I want is to get 45 FPS at very high or ultra (depending on how much actual difference is in particular game) for the minimum price.
And I'm probably going to sell my card and buy one from 11 series or some AMD Vega card later to save a couple hundreds PLN. The cheaper cards seem to lose their % value much slower than the high end cards.

If you want to go cheap just buy 1060
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Re: What case for this PC? Also hardware discussion now.

Postby loftar » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:15 pm

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:Guys what's your opinion of http://www.logicalincrements.com?
They say I need at least GTX 1070 build to run Witcher 3 at high 30-45s, but on the other site it says it would get me as much as 65 FPS. They use an i7 to test their cards, but it shouldn't boost the performance, just guarantee unbiased no-bottleneck test, right?
Could be nvidia hairworks though.

AnandTech's bench is pretty useful for such questions.
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