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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby dageir » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:41 pm

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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby ven » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:46 pm

Jalpha wrote:I often wish I could return to a more primitive environment. A masculine environment, without borders, where every in direction is a frontier of the unexplored, of new discoveries, of risks and rewards. There is very little room for the expression of masculinity in the society we have built. Just about everything is tamed and conquered already. When I think romantically of going back to the copper or iron ages i am always reminded of Otzii. He was an example of how people at that time got everything they needed from their environment. He was also murdered by another human being, and I puzzle over why. Probably, as I imagine it, he met conflict when gathering copper ore.

The one thing that always makes me glad to live in this age though is just how many parasites ancient peoples had. They all had intestinal worms and that's just the beginning. I don't think I could be comfortable living like that.

There's Northern Canada, the Amazon Jungle the Australian Outback, and the Argentinian Pampas. I'm sure some parts of those haven't ever been explored.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby Jalpha » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:22 am

Yes that's true but a lot of those places have yet to feel the weight of a human foot for good reason. There isn't anything there really.

I mean I travel a lot and it gives the same kind of feeling I guess, just going to a new place, a new country, a new town. Always moving until I feel the need to settle and rest for a time, to mull over the experiences I've had and the things I've seen. In olden times you could just live that lifestyle and subsist off what you could gather, craft and hunt on your own. Nowdays there is one acceptable life path and if you deviate from it then you're scum and deserve to suffer for the rest of your existence. Everything is already owned, already claimed. Fresh starts and new beginnings are rare and hard to come by. You can't just go to the next valley over and build a new home away from the man who cheated you. You can't kill him anymore either.

What it is to be a man used to be easy. You could just be one. Now it's like walking a tightrope. Be a man, but follow all these rules and restrictions. It's a very difficult and tricky path to follow and it's no wonder so many men become frustrated and lash out. Additionally there isn't a great deal of room on that tightrope and it's filled with people eager to shove you off to put themselves in just a little bit better of a position.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby Ysh » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:03 am

Jalpha wrote:Yes that's true but a lot of those places have yet to feel the weight of a human foot for good reason. There isn't anything there really.

I mean I travel a lot and it gives the same kind of feeling I guess, just going to a new place, a new country, a new town. Always moving until I feel the need to settle and rest for a time, to mull over the experiences I've had and the things I've seen. In olden times you could just live that lifestyle and subsist off what you could gather, craft and hunt on your own. Nowdays there is one acceptable life path and if you deviate from it then you're scum and deserve to suffer for the rest of your existence. Everything is already owned, already claimed. Fresh starts and new beginnings are rare and hard to come by. You can't just go to the next valley over and build a new home away from the man who cheated you. You can't kill him anymore either.

What it is to be a man used to be easy. You could just be one. Now it's like walking a tightrope. Be a man, but follow all these rules and restrictions. It's a very difficult and tricky path to follow and it's no wonder so many men become frustrated and lash out. Additionally there isn't a great deal of room on that tightrope and it's filled with people eager to shove you off to put themselves in just a little bit better of a position.

I think most of this barrier of you is in you mind.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby MrPunchers » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:26 am

Life's pretty bad atm, and it'll just get worse as time goes on, but what I do is just tell myself nothing I've ever come by or did hasn't resolved itself in a peaceful manner, so everything will be ok.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby Darruin » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:29 am

We still have frontiers to be passed. Perhaps in a million years if we've spread over the entire universe then we'd become bored, but not now.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby Jalpha » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:30 am

I'm not talking about me specifically but men in general. I've spent a torturous existence trying to find room for me to express myself in a way that's constructive not only to myself but to others as well. I think I've finally found that place but time will tell.

I just sympathise greatly with young men who are facing a very challenging obstacle course. I lament that it wasn't always so difficult a rite of passage for guys to become men. In this day and age not only are we vying amongst ourselves for position, rank and favour; we must also compete with women. There isn't much room for men, and I think having an identity and a meaningful place in society (or adjacent to it) is a great source of satisfaction and happiness. Then again some people are also burdened with particularly difficult upbringings or attributes which make things even more difficult again.

I also don't think it's all only in my own mind. People are right cunts to be perfectly blunt. I include myself, as all of us should yet so few of us actually do. We're all a bunch of tremendous assholes and if you think you aren't you're deluding yourself. Being able to recognise how detestable other people are is bad enough, but facing the realisation that you are just as bad is difficult.

I choose not to be ignorant. I choose to face my struggles rather than hide from them or simply pretend they aren't there, deluding myself that life is pleasant and living within a fantasy construct that is as far from reality as one can be.

So while to some extent any problem is within ones own mind, the solution is not always palatable nor easy to acquire.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby Ysh » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:42 am

Jalpha wrote:I'm not talking about me specifically but men in general. I've spent a torturous existence trying to find room for me to express myself in a way that's constructive not only to myself but to others as well. I think I've finally found that place but time will tell.

I just sympathise greatly with young men who are facing a very challenging obstacle course. I lament that it wasn't always so difficult a rite of passage for guys to become men. In this day and age not only are we vying amongst ourselves for position, rank and favour; we must also compete with women. There isn't much room for men, and I think having an identity and a meaningful place in society (or adjacent to it) is a great source of satisfaction and happiness. Then again some people are also burdened with particularly difficult upbringings or attributes which make things even more difficult again.

I also don't think it's all only in my own mind. People are right cunts to be perfectly blunt. I include myself, as all of us should yet so few of us actually do. We're all a bunch of tremendous assholes and if you think you aren't you're deluding yourself. Being able to recognise how detestable other people are is bad enough, but facing the realisation that you are just as bad is difficult.

I choose not to be ignorant. I choose to face my struggles rather than hide from them or simply pretend they aren't there, deluding myself that life is pleasant and living within a fantasy construct that is as far from reality as one can be.

So while to some extent any problem is within ones own mind, the solution is not always palatable nor easy to acquire.

I find it regretful that you thinking this way. This is not how this world is or how people are in my experience. It is a shame you think I must believe this from ignorance.
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby ricky » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:18 am

I cope with reality by remembering that my ancestors lived a shit desolate life full of disease, plague, still births, starvation, exposure, and war, and in comparison my cushy life of internet memes and fast food is pretty god damn comfortable
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Re: How do you cope with the reality?

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:08 am

ricky wrote:I cope with reality by remembering that my ancestors lived a shit desolate life full of disease, plague, still births, starvation, exposure, and war, and in comparison my cushy life of internet memes and fast food is pretty god damn comfortable


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