Trump & Kim Jong Un sign a ‘historic document’

[waga]

French president is more fluent in english than Trump , that should say enough isn't it ? :^)
aight I'm done for good , ffs

[CaddoPuma]

French president is more fluent in english than Trump , that should say enough isn't it ? :^)
aight I'm done for good , ffs

Of course! President Trump's first language is American, not English. Your statement is totally inaccurate and biased and demonstrably so.

[azrid]

"I'm done now so u can't say anything back to me *puts blinders back on*"
Things noobs do.

[dageir]

I'm not interested talking politic over the internet , even more on a gaming board.
I just couldn't resist with this one.
Yes , america , and trump in particular are laughed all over Europe.
Now I'm done with this thread , it depresses me too much.

Only by those who are misinformed or uninformed. People all over America are now laughing at you. And at Europe. And regardless of what some Europeans may believe, Europe is not "the world"

In isolation your statemnt might be correct. Europe is not the world. However disengaging from Europe or alienating Europe is not so wise. Look what happened in 1914 and in 1939. Sooner or later the U.S. will be dragged back in.

[CaddoPuma]

...disengaging from Europe or alienating Europe is not so wise. Look what happened in 1914 and in 1939. Sooner or later the U.S. will be dragged back in.

No one wants to alienate anyone. And by the way, the first tariffs were raised on China, not Europe. It's The Europeans and American leftists that want America to stop policing the world...so long as we keep pumping in financial aide, medical aide, food aide, and continue to be hamstrung in trade agreements that were designed to give European and Asian countries the economic strength to recover from wars that the US didnt get them into but helped bail them out of. But it doesnt work that way. If you want our money and our resources, it will come with strings. Deal with it or deal without it. Those nations have been rebuilt. Those trade deals which artificially hamstring America's production and thus our economy in favor of Europe and Asia are no longer necessary. It's time to end those lopsided trade agreements and let everyone stand on their own two feet - and on level ground - to fend for themselves.

[MagicManICT]

the first tariffs were raised on China, not Europe.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Get your facts straight. Tariffs are being dropped left and right, and it doesn't matter where the first was dropped at. The fact is that tariffs have been dropped on long standing allies, and they retaliated. The fact is the bomb was dropped, and we've gone to full scale nuclear-economic war. Trump is going to lay waste to the US economy just like he laid waste to his own companies' bottom line 7 times.

[CaddoPuma]

Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Get your facts straight. Tariffs are being dropped left and right, and it doesn't matter where the first was dropped at. The fact is that tariffs have been dropped...

Get your own facts straight. check yourself before you wreck yourself. Tariffs are a tax on imports. Dropping tariffs makes the countries (Europe, Asia, Canada, etc.) exporting to the US happy. It's raising tariffs to balance out the long standing trade deficit the US has had with these countries that is ticking them off.

...The fact is that tariffs have been dropped on long standing allies, and they retaliated.

Again, get your own facts straight. He is talking about raising tariffs on European steel and Canadian milk. And with good reason. We can make our own, we dont have to keep propping up their economies by artificially deflating the costs of their goods while whole cities like Detroit crumble because it's cheaper to buy European steel than to make our own. The only tariffs that have been raised is the tariffs on Chinese goods. The rest is just talk and like babes on a teat, just the talk of weening them and making them compete in a fair global market makes them apoplectic.

Trump is going to lay waste to the US economy just like he laid waste to his own companies' bottom line 7 times.

Please explain to me how making foreign goods cost more or as much as domestic goods, putting our own factories back into production, and creating manufacturing and agricultural jobs for our people is going to lay waste to our economy.

And, Please! 7 bankruptcies out of 36 Trump start ups? Every businessman understands that 5 in 10 startups fail in the first 3 years and 8 in 10 fail in the first 10 years. That's a 50% and 20% success rate, respectively. You focus on Trump's 7 in 36 failures and conveniently ignore his 29 in 36 successes. That's an 81% sucess rate. Any businessman worth his salt would give his left testicle for that record.

[dageir]

No one wants to alienate anyone. And by the way, the first tariffs were raised on China, not Europe. It's The Europeans and American leftists that want America to stop policing the world...so long as we keep pumping in financial aide, medical aide, food aide, and continue to be hamstrung in trade agreements that were designed to give European and Asian countries the economic strength to recover from wars that the US didnt get them into but helped bail them out of. But it doesnt work that way. If you want our money and our resources, it will come with strings. Deal with it or deal without it. Those nations have been rebuilt. Those trade deals which artificially hamstring America's production and thus our economy in favor of Europe and Asia are no longer necessary. It's time to end those lopsided trade agreements and let everyone stand on their own two feet - and on level ground - to fend for themselves.

Europe has never been good at fending for itself. If the US. witdraws there will be a huge powevacuum. Guess who waits to fill that vacuum?

[CaddoPuma]

No one wants to alienate anyone. And by the way, the first tariffs were raised on China, not Europe. It's The Europeans and American leftists that want America to stop policing the world...so long as we keep pumping in financial aide, medical aide, food aide, and continue to be hamstrung in trade agreements that were designed to give European and Asian countries the economic strength to recover from wars that the US didnt get them into but helped bail them out of. But it doesnt work that way. If you want our money and our resources, it will come with strings. Deal with it or deal without it. Those nations have been rebuilt. Those trade deals which artificially hamstring America's production and thus our economy in favor of Europe and Asia are no longer necessary. It's time to end those lopsided trade agreements and let everyone stand on their own two feet - and on level ground - to fend for themselves.

Europe has never been good at fending for itself. If the US. withdraws there will be a huge power vacuum. Guess who waits to fill that vacuum?

And yet all the clamor about "American Imperialism", "American meddling", and "America, World Police." You can't have it both ways. Do you want our protection from

photos of dictators

or not? If you want that protection to continue, it's no longer going to come at our expense while you ride our economy into the ground at no cost. Ante up!

[dageir]

I have never yelled imperialism and such. As you can see in my statement that I do not think Europe will manage without a "big brother". I'd rather that be the U.S. than Russia.
Europe needs U.S for protection and stability.

From the U.S. point of view I can understand it seems that Europe is leeching on the U.S. Problem is, what is cheaper? To stabilize Europe financially and militarily to prevent any "shenanigans" like WW1/2 or jump in when
shit already has hit the fan? You can tariff the Europeans all you like, but that will push them away towards Russia. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Choose your poison.