The world will fix or destroy?

[Pills]

Has anybody actually reported how they are doing it thought? because it sounds like if they can't find a fix then they don't know the steps to even reproduce it. In which case the stance of just sitting and waiting while people are obviously going to be abusing this still with zero punishment because its not being reported is just disgusting.

and the longer this goes on unfixed the more reason there is to quit playing this world because a reset is more and more likely.

There needs to be more said on this publicly so everyone knows where they stand because honestly fuck playing this game if the world resets in 2 or 3 weeks from now because no cunt actually reported how they are doing this bug and the world goes beyond repair.

also, everyone and anyone affiliated with abusing the bug should be fucking banned, regardless of how much they spend on the game.

[terechgracz]

The only reason to play this w is to create new characters and train for new world start.

also, everyone and anyone affiliated with abusing the bug should be fucking banned, regardless of how much they spend on the game.

Nope, this game is eternal alpha so exploiting bug is actually beneficial for this game at this stage. They should be punished for not contacting devs about it and they were. Banning them is too much imo.

[Uriel]

Its alfa, things like that will happen. No reason for new world. But.. punishment should be harder

[Pills]

The only reason to play this w is to create new characters and train for new world start.

also, everyone and anyone affiliated with abusing the bug should be fucking banned, regardless of how much they spend on the game.

Nope, this game is eternal alpha so exploiting bug is actually beneficial for this game at this stage. They should be punished for not contacting devs about it and they were. Banning them is too much imo.

saying "game is alpha" after 10 years isn't a good enough excuse anymore. or even after 4 years if we're just looking at hafen. They also were't really punished though, they were given a way too generous amount of time to hide/move all their shit and had their characters killed, should have been banned.

and like i said, devs need to announce now if they are going to reset the world or not once this is fixed to save people wasting time playing this world.

[vnsmirnov]

I think that they can not fix the bug. The world will restart in September.

[Cingal]

also, everyone and anyone affiliated with abusing the bug should be fucking banned, regardless of how much they spend on the game.

I don't disagree. But, the problem with that is that it's pretty easy to bypass anything like that.

Worst case, they lose hats and membership.
But, given they've already amassed a large amount of goods and hidden it away, they can be traded for pretty much anything lost, due to how powerful the items they have are.

Even with a wipe, these types of people have a nasty habit of finding a way to mitigate such things.

[pimotimo]

I'm so sad of how this have been dealt by the developers. All this legal grind for no fucking reason, every person can outstat me so freaking fast and literally no effort now. Im guessing its time to stop playing this world. Well played.

edit: also why didnt u ban all those bug abusers anyway? so soft in punishment if u dont take some measures ppl will keep abusing and abusing. THis looks like a fucking joke

[Pills]

also, everyone and anyone affiliated with abusing the bug should be fucking banned, regardless of how much they spend on the game.

I don't disagree. But, the problem with that is that it's pretty easy to bypass anything like that.

Worst case, they lose hats and membership.
But, given they've already amassed a large amount of goods and hidden it away, they can be traded for pretty much anything lost, due to how powerful the items they have are.

Even with a wipe, these types of people have a nasty habit of finding a way to mitigate such things.

Which is exactly why they shouldn't have gave them upwards of 12 hours to do such things and should just delete the accounts. Lose hats, memberships, verifications etc.

Worst case is indeed losing things like that, but that is a massive worst case. That is potentially hundreds of dollars or hundreds of hours grinding previous worlds to trade for those items lost. Rather than just 2 months of the current world which they can easily get back because of their alliances and that they had a HUGE time given to them hide everything.

No other online game worth its salt would have let them off so lightly for something like this. All they got was a few characters deleted and a coronation stone destroyed. They should have been completely removed from the game and all bugged items removed too. The developers also need to say exactly what their plan moving forward is.

This game in particular is a MASSIVE time sink for active players, and to ignore the rest of their player base and not put out a statement on what they are actually going to do to try to tackle this is just bad. The developers do not play this game like everyone else does, they don't understand what people actually invest in playing this game. And the latest on this being "if they're not that high it probably doesn't matter much" is down right disgusting and degrading to every single player who plays this game legitimately and invests their time and money in supporting the game. By saying that basically translates to "we don't care if people abuse a bug so long as they don't overly abuse it". Any bug, no matter how small, should be punishable for using it, and people wouldn't abuse bugs if any consequences actually meant anything.

The developers should be ashamed for how they have handled this.

[MagicManICT]

saying "game is alpha" after 10 years isn't a good enough excuse anymore. or even after 4 years if we're just looking at hafen.

The terms "alpha" and "beta" are development stage labels given to projects that are not yet finished*. They each have their own implications and meaning, they also are both pretty broad and can overlap. For explanations, I'm going to direct you to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_ ... life_cycle.

From that general definition of the development cycle, we are technically in a beta because we are not given any information about what does what and are left to black box the testing. Also, we have a very functioning, if incomplete, piece of software. Most alpha grade software is usually so buggy it's unusable from crashes and mechanics not functioning.

There are no time limits on software development unless you are under contract to produce a piece of software within a given budget and/or time frame. When it comes to indie projects that have no time or budget constraints (the latter usually because there is no budget other than "make a living to feed myself and family,") it means developers such jorb and loftar, Bay 12, and others such as the ones working on games like TOME, UnReal World, etc. can take 5 years to "release" their game, or they can take 20 or 30.

You just simply cannot have the same expectations from indie projects that you do from AAA development. The quality must be judged differently.

*You could say any MMO is never finished... and when it is, it usually is closed within a couple of years or just a few die hard fans that provide just enough support to keep it running. There is clearly a difference between "expanding story" and "game mechanics still in development," though.

[Ozzy123]

I can't believe that devs are just quiet about it and that the realm buffs are still gone xD People could've easily got another 1100 attributes or maybe just +100 to avoid the ban, but they could still be abusing this stupid bug.