Cries about Fate

[Mashadar]

I think it's pretty safe to say, at least, that whatever one may think of the fate system, the alternative is not to go back to how it was. Bot-foraging for so-called "rare" curiosities was not good for anyone. If you really dislike fate-based foragables that much, I'd rather just remove them completely.

Any system that gives diminishing returns to botters (or just generally people who keep doing the same thing over and over) is good, HOWEVER the rarity and the actual benefits of the fated curios are currently grossly disproportionate. If a pearl gave like 50k LP and an edelweiss gave 20k, people likely wouldn't mind as much. But if you're going to find one per month and it hardly gives more than a glimmermoss and has no other uses either, one has to indeed wonder why it's even in the game.

It's also a bit of a shame that there's currently not much point in raising exploration beyond the point where you can see mussels and glimmermoss. Exploring (and also unlocking new things as you build your character) has always been fun in Haven, so I hope you'll keep that in mind for future development.
Unexpected things you can stumble upon are generally good, be it uncommon/rare foreageables or other things. The new node system is really good in this regard - you might just find that 10/100/100 yellowfeet or cavebulb node and while it might not win you the game, it's still a nice find.

Travelling the lands far and wide also happens to be a discipline bots are not particularly good at, so there's that.

[naosnule]

O Fortuna
velut luna
statu variabilis,
semper crescis
aut decrescis;
vita detestabilis
nunc obdurat
et tunc curat
ludo mentis aciem,
egestatem,
potestatem
dissolvit ut glaciem.

Sors immanis
et inanis,
rota tu volubilis,
status malus,
vana salus
semper dissolubilis,
obumbrata
et velata
michi quoque niteris;
nunc per ludum
dorsum nudum
fero tui sceleris.

Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.
Hac in hora
sine mora
corde pulsum tangite;
quod per sortem
sternit fortem,
mecum omnes plangite!

Such a wonderful work Carmina Burana is, specially if you learn the translations for the humoristic parts . Estuans Interius is in particular very poetic.

[Myzreal]

Make rare fate curios not give LP but instead provide a multiplier for other curios of the same type. Flotsam would give a 30% boost to all water-related or wood-related curios. Edelweiis to mountain-related and mining-related curios. They would last for some time and be exhausted as you gain LP. Whether they should take up attention or not (and how much) is debatable.

Do this along with a balancing pass over the regular curios so the huge gap between the good and the shit is a lot less huge.

[alioli]

I'm sitting on 22expl*27perc atm, so i'm mostly a noob - but I'm fairly happy with the things that i'm finding, it's not much (Bolete, emerald dragonfly (?), and that thorny thing - normal stuff) but i'll agree that what we can make, and find is actually very weak.
Also - most things we can make that are actually somewhat viable (mirkwood offering and seers bones) are just really expensive, for a noob like me to make, and since the nerf on bows I'm hardly even hunting anymore as it's too difficult. So I'm having a true lack of curios atm.
Definitly for boosting or making them more easily accessable. I can see the frustration of more hardcore players absolutely.

[mamotromico]

I stopped complaining about slow LP gain when i discovered Mirkwood Offering.

Now I just smoke them like crazy.

[alioli]

Is it just me or wouldnt it make sense for fish to give 1x Guts as well? at least the bigger fish. Might be a silly suggestion but ^^

[hazzor]

Is it just me or wouldnt it make sense for fish to give 1x Guts as well? at least the bigger fish. Might be a silly suggestion but ^^

that is one of the least relevant replies I think I've ever seen.

[Sarge]

I suspect the only people crying about the fate system are those that have played legacy before this and now all of a sudden are missing their 'good' curious. Those that don't know, well don't know and they're missing nothing. The way the old system was bottable was a complete fuckup and we should definitely never return to that. The playing field is currently pretty level as far as this is concerned and I would rather have Loftar remove the fate curios completely than go back to the way it was before.

Is this the absolute best system? I dunno, but it's working and it was necessary.

P.S. I have not gotten a bluebell, flotsam or eidelweis myself... and it's ok, because I know that hardly anyone has and it is likely that I will get as many as the average in any case.

[Serbuch]

I think it's pretty safe to say, at least, that whatever one may think of the fate system, the alternative is not to go back to how it was. Bot-foraging for so-called "rare" curiosities was not good for anyone. If you really dislike fate-based foragables that much, I'd rather just remove them completely.

And no, the intention was never that "everyone" could get pearls, but rather that "anyone" could.

Its ok , You always preferred to remove a broken game mechanics than to fix it , so plz delete all fatebased curio its broken too

[jorb]

How on earth is removing them better than having them effectively be very rare?