Are we going to get a World expansion?

[naosnule]

You shouldn't. Go ahead and try to hide. But the devs have no reason to assist you, is what I'm saying. Because a game with all hermits is not an MMO.

If assisting him yields on average more money to them, then that's a reason.

[Enjoyment]

you're not the smartest one, are you?..
i don't need YOUR suggestion how to survive - i'm dealin fine with it by myself. But why should I do it only in one way? I don't think it is right to force players to deals with each other, if i don't want? Im generally dont like people - thats why i play online game rather to go somewhere IRL, and i dont think that devs should deprive this option for people like me...

So what happens when someone comes along and kills you and steals all your stuff because you didn't bother to protect it? Are you going to demand the developers change the game because this isn't how you want to play?

The game allows other players to steal from you and kill you at anytime they want, that is how the game works. If you don't take steps to prevent this, you're asking for it. You cannot demand the developers keep changing the game to suit your personal play style.

I didn't demand anything anywhere. And I don't mind to be killed or get all my stuff stolen - it is one of the game-mechanic basics. I just think that raiders and griefers have to put some affords to make their evil... You know, noone build 150 banks at Harlem, so those poor guys from there have to spend some time to rob a bank. But with such small world, a newbie starting the game won't be able to find any spot to settle... There will allways be some threat in like 15 mins to any direction. And as far as I know - you CANT BUILD F**KING PALISADE, when you're robbed twice a day - they demand LEATHER, which tooks 2 days IRL.

Oh, and one more little thing... Every one who started to play since now is already a monthes lost because of claimed resources with insta study stuff. And there is no way for them to get some.

[wolf1000wolf]

Ok, didn't expect my tiny post to spawn that much discussion....

My reason for supporting a world expansion is fairly simple: Connecting rivers.

In the past, raiders were more or less localized and had to expend major effort to affect other locations.

Now, because of rivers, their effective marauding range has gotten MUCH larger. Plus, rivers are less safe.

Therefore, an increase in world size might help alleviate the problems of overraiding.

Ofc, I might just have been unlucky in spawning/settling nearby raider folks...

PS- Devs, can we get some discontinuity in the river systems for the world expansion?

[simimi]

Enjoyment ( name dont fit the posts quiet well ) its a survival game, I sometime have the same playstyle than you.
What I do is make a very basic little farm away from rivers with nothing to steal, and build a palissade fare into a cave were I store everyting related to metal and everything of value.

On topic, this small world give adrenaline and I love it, even if I am the pray.

[earllohst]

And as far as I know - you CANT BUILD F**KING PALISADE, when you're robbed twice a day - they demand LEATHER, which tooks 2 days IRL.

Tips for you:

Build wilderness beacon, spawn an alt on your location, get a bag for him to increase inventory size, keep everything important on him and log him off, repeat this as much as you want. Only log him on when you are sure you will be safe or when you want to build or use something that is in his inventory. I used mine to carry all the palisade resources.

As for drying leather pick a cave without ore veins that is not near any body of water, don't build your base or drying racks in immediate cave entrance walk 2-3 minimaps in the cave and then settle there (pclaim them), don't pave or do anything to the ground, try to make the map looks inhibited/unchanged. Same with outer cave don't do anything that suggest people have been there so no one will look and check there.

If someone robs you once, move away cause they will visit again for more loots.

[Tamalak]

I didn't demand anything anywhere. And I don't mind to be killed or get all my stuff stolen - it is one of the game-mechanic basics. I just think that raiders and griefers have to put some affords to make their evil..

If we're all spread out and hermited individually, griefers will not have to "put some affords to make their evil". They can pick you off with impunity. A larger world makes it easier for them in a way.

In a smaller world, decent people - who ARE the majority of the population - might actually get their act together and band against them. The scent mechanic makes this possible. How about you join that effort instead of whining to the devs?

On topic, this small world give adrenaline and I love it, even if I am the pray.

Seconded. Being killed is no fun. But knowing you can be killed is quite stimulating

[Enjoyment]

Enjoyment ( name dont fit the posts quiet well ) its a survival game, I sometime have the same playstyle than you.
What I do is make a very basic little farm away from rivers with nothing to steal, and build a palissade fare into a cave were I store everyting related to metal and everything of value.

Oh, I do enjoy my playtime - my brickwall was built early at Tuesday. That's not what i'm talking about. I can protect my base and my stuff. But it seems that it will be the only thing I will do in a week or two, cause people are EVERYWHERE...

[earllohst]

Oh, I do enjoy my playtime - my brickwall was built early at Tuesday. That's not what i'm talking about. I can protect my base and my stuff. But it seems that it will be the only thing I will do in a week or two, cause people are EVERYWHERE...

Ha nice one!

[simimi]

Well, if you are that misantropic, just consider that peoples are some sort of boars or lynx, I'm sure you can tune your lient to show them like that.

[Enjoyment]

OK, for everyone.
I know that H&H is MMO... Ok
But it is still a single-player MMO, so I should be provided with an option to play it single.
And now it is much harder to do this, than in w8.

Do I like it? No
Can I deal with it? Yes
Would I be glad if situation will change? Hell, yeah!

Maybe someone know 1 early-access game, called Rust? It had some simillar moments with H&H - you spawn naked, could leaarn some crafting and build and protect your base. And there was pepole building some really phenomenal projects. Yes, it was hard to protect, and most players were griefers, but people could organize to fight them back. And then, the devs added one small feature - craftable ladders. They were ridiculous cheap and gave an ability to raid ANY BASE in 15 mins. And it killed the game for thouthands of people. It is now not a surviving-mmo - it's just a sandbox for "whose douchebag's clan is bigger". One small f**king ladder ruins all.

I just think that so small world in w9 could (just could) become such a "ladder" for H&H. I don't want it become. But more I don't want that devs says "we weren't warned earlier" when this happen.