Why are vegetarians hated?

[NOOBY93]

The problem is not man being an omnivore. That only means you can choose whether to eat meat or not. Biologically speaking, a balanced diet is both meat and vegetables. But it's not about biology, it's about morality. Vegetarians don't eat meat and consider this to make them more moral (i.e. better) than meat-eaters. It all comes from desire to divide everyone in groups and state that your group is better. Meat-eaters don't identify themselves through their meat-eating. Vegetarians do.

Being an omnivore doesn't mean you can choose whether to eat meat or not, it means "Omnivore /ˈɒmnivɔər/ is a consumption classification for animals that have the capability to obtain energy and nutrients from materials originating from plant and animal origin."
In other words, we don't need to eat meat to be healthy.

Onto the next point: It doesn't come from the "desire to divide everyone in groups" (not sure where you're getting this from) but from the desire to make the world a less painful place for the most possible animals. Meat-eaters are either too simple minded to understand that eating meat fuels the meat industry and causes death to more animals, or they just simply don't care about the pain and death of animals.

[dageir]

Biology>morality

Humans are omnivores.
This is a very good adaptation in a world with changing demands. Nothing wrong in eating meat.
The best meat is the meat you caught and cooked yourself.

[NOOBY93]

How can you compare biology and morality? That's like saying "tbh chocolate is better than gravity." They aren't even in the same category. I didn't know people could be this retarded.

[dageir]

What seems to escape you is that our concept of morality is a product of our biology.

[NOOBY93]

What seems to escape you is that our concept of morality is a product of our biology.

We DO have a concept of morality, and eating meat is against it. Are you saying our biology contradicts itself? lmao

[dageir]

Morality is a construct and a very subjective one at that.

[NOOBY93]

Morality is a construct and a very subjective one at that.

Couldn't agree more, but for the sake of argument, some ethical philosophy must be implied, otherwise one could answer everything with "doing X isn't wrong, morality doesn't actually exist."

[Jalpha]

I consider the best meat to be the meat derived from animals with the highest FCR and lowest land space requirement. FCR is feed conversion ratio for anyone who cares, and is displayed as a ratio of weight gained for food consumed. Fish are some of the best with ratios as good as 1:1. Factory farmed pigs have a ratio of 1:3 or so in a well run establishment. Chickens I think and rabbits (off the top of my head) have an FCR of 1:2 or so. Look it up if you care, my numbers are probably slightly off.

Vegetarians are small minded for believing they are somehow morally superior. Plant based proteins are just as destructive to the environment. Animal welfare isn't the only factor to consider when evaluating your dietary intake.

If you want proteins which are the least environmentally harmful and cause the least distress to animals eat fish farmed in aquaculture. Not that ocean farmed salmon either, land based aquaculture is far less polluting and some aquaculture is heading towards a zero discharge operational procedure. Here in Australia that's kind of our specialty because we can't discharge into catchments which run to the great barrier reef. (Note that already established industries like cane farming have yet to be required to adhere to such legislation as it would mean the death of that industry, but any new industries (such as aquaculture) must adhere to environmentally sound practices).

I actually have spent some time studying agriculture in an attempt to make a difference to unsound environmental practices and inhumane treatment of animals. The root cause of all of it though is capitalism. It's simply too expensive and inefficient to do things the "right" way.

Vegetarians make their decision off of an emotional basis and not a logical one. They choose not to eat meat because of how it makes them feel about the feelings of animals. It's far from logical or environmentally sound, let alone superior, to consume only plants and not animals.

I could go on but there's no point really. The whole system is rooted.

[linkfanpc]

Exactly. If you eat meat you directly support slaughter and pain for animals.

I'm just explaining most vegetarians' reasoning and that it's not just them "not liking meat". Me eating meat doesn't mean I don't understand vegetarian reasoning, it just makes me not care about animals.

What if i eat venison because i support killing the WAY TOO MANY DEERS that live around my area. Car crashes and deaths are constant because the dumb things run in front of cars.

Plus leather is a great material for making clothing. Meat is an excellent food source. Antlers and bones have many uses. Fat can be used to make tallow. Brains were used to make tanning fluid to make leather. Animals are very useful. If we never hunted them the world would be too densely populated.

[overtyped]

Bob Dole supports both normal people and vegetetrexes, as long as they stay the **** off of bob doles lawn.