Is coffee a drug like cannabis

[Kaios]

Rates of schizophrenia have remained stable across time periods when cannabis was used by a large portion of the population. There is yet to be a single scientific paper published with definitive proof that cannabis causes schizophrenia.

I believe that while it doesn't directly cause any such illness of the mind, if that illness is already lurking within an individual I am quite certain smoking, especially at a younger age, will cause someone to be at greater risk of "activating" the illness... if that makes sense.

[Ysh]

Rates of schizophrenia have remained stable across time periods when cannabis was used by a large portion of the population. There is yet to be a single scientific paper published with definitive proof that cannabis causes schizophrenia.

I believe that while it doesn't directly cause any such illness of the mind, if that illness is already lurking within an individual I am quite certain smoking, especially at a younger age, will cause someone to be at greater risk of "activating" the illness... if that makes sense.

I have heard this one for LSD, but not for reefer.

[Jalpha]

It does. A lot of mental illnesses are brought on by a "traumatic event". The exact psychological term used to describe the event which causes the manifestation of a mental illness escapes me at this time. It is said that cannabis use can, in certain individuals, likely with an intolerance to cannabis and also a propensity toward mental illness may have that illness "triggered" by a cannabis smoking session.

It is however important to note that such a triggering event is just as likely to occur during a heavy drinking session, a car accident, being robbed or even having your parents divorce.

There is one very good reason in particular to avoid smoking cannabis when young and that is that heavy cannabis use is likely to cause a drop in IQ of around 20 points. There is also long term damage to short term memory to consider. Compounded, of course, when you are young.

[Kaios]

I have heard this one for LSD, but not for reefer.

I don't know, I'm not basing it off of any scientific evidence I've ever read but rather my own experiences with these issues. My brother was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic some time ago and while he was in to worse stuff than weed later on I'm of the opinion his issues began with marijuana.

That doesn't mean I think it's bad though because I do it myself. I do agree with what Jalpha said about age except I think around 20 years old is fine to start experimenting. 30 is young but you're not a kid any more either.

[jordancoles]

Caffeine is a stimulant

[Ysh]

I have heard this one for LSD, but not for reefer.

I don't know, I'm not basing it off of any scientific evidence I've ever read but rather my own experiences with these issues. My brother was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic some time ago and while he was in to worse stuff than weed later on I'm of the opinion his issues began with marijuana.

That doesn't mean I think it's bad though because I do it myself. I do agree with what Jalpha said about age except I think around 20 years old is fine to start experimenting. 30 is young but you're not a kid any more either.

Sorry for not clear. I am agree with you. I am saying something as ''I have heard this for LSD, so it is standing for reason it can happen with other drug.'' Not ''I do not heard this for other drug, so it can not be this way for those.''

[linkfanpc]

And yeah, i do have my cup of Joe every now and then.

You are too young to drink this coffee, you still have the so-called ''vitality of youth.''

lol, knew someone had to comment on that.

[mrfrump]

It would be nice people share how drugs affects their performance in Haven game.

Always toked.
i ran out of reefer once, decided to play haven, 10 mins in died to a cave-in. never again.

[Granger]

Canabis can induce schizophrenia - coffee will not.

You most likely confuse cause and effect. See below.

Canabis will lower your performance in traffic

That is factually false, there have been tests made in bavaria a bit back that disprove your claim.

Well, actually they did two of them.
On the first one the setup was for the test persons to smoke a joint supplied to them and then drive - a good part had to be carried to the car so I don't wonder why they performed worse. This was used to ban weed for driving and criminalize it in general.
Second test came a bit later and there the people brought their own stuff and smoked what they saw fit when having to drive later - the high persons performed better (in terms of safety) than the drunk ones and the sober control group. This result was put in a drawer and locked away.

I don't know, I'm not basing it off of any scientific evidence I've ever read but rather my own experiences with these issues. My brother was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic some time ago and while he was in to worse stuff than weed later on I'm of the opinion his issues began with marijuana.

1. Anecdotal evidence isn't.
2. You also most likely confuse cause and effect. Your speculation is weed caused the state of your brother and completely ignore the possibility that his state caused him to abuse drugs - which as far as science knows is way more likely than your view.

I do agree with what Jalpha said about age except I think around 20 years old is fine to start experimenting. 30 is young but you're not a kid any more either.

Exposing a developing neural network to overdoses of drugs is a bad idea. This goes for all substances that change brain chemistry, not only the illegal ones.

[Ysh]

This result was put in a drawer and locked away.

How do you know of it?